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    Before I start with the present, allow me to open some pages from the past:

    When MICDC first started getting together (in or around 2009), it was a very small number of individuals who shared a passion for fishing, fellowship, and the sense of comradery. Those first events laid the stonework for the foundation we have today.

    Don, having been to events in other states, took it upon himself to start developing events in our area. He knew what those events entailed and tried to bring that same level to our area. Sensing that he was getting burned out from hosting events and all of the work, planning, and coordination that goes in to it, I decided to help him out and take over for an event or two. Putting on one of these events gives you a better understanding of the big picture and just how much effort goes in to making an event the best it can be.

    Over the last few years we have tried our best to allow other people to take the torch and continue on with what has been started. The more people that host an event, the bigger the knowledge pool becomes for new people. We encourage others to host an event so that they can interject their personal touches which allows them to tailor the event as they would like to see it.

    In the past, some of the financial burden has fallen on a select few members. At the time it doesn’t seem like much. A dollar here for this, five dollars for that. Pretty soon however, the additions add up quickly. It isn’t fair to need to count on or rely on one individual to come up with that sort of thing on the fly.

    Around 2014, it was decided that we would begin to keep a log book and stockpile a small amount of money in order to ensure that club type things could be paid for utilizing club funds. That money was collected in the form of T-shirt sales and fishing tournament donations. At the time, we were dealing with a relatively small amount of money (less than $300 dollars annually). We did not feel the need to have a club secretary or club financial officer to handle the monies so we simply decided to annotate the money earned and money spent within a logbook that would be passed from one event host to the next.

    Although this was good “in theory” the problem was that the spring events would generate enough capital to sustain, but the fall events would spend more capital then what was taken in. In very short order (fall of 2016) the funds were depleted to zero.

    In the spring of 2015 and 2016, our club embarked on a mission to raise money for a local charity. We were able to raise a ton of money in those two years. Although this was a great mission and undertaking and there are no regrets for what was done, these charity fund raising events put little funds in to our general fund. This helped lead to the zero balance that was experienced in the fall of 2016.

    In the spring of 2017 it was determined that we needed to generate capital in order to once again open up our general fund. Having hosted five or six previous events, I was confident with a very specific number that we needed to hit in order to remain solvent for years to come. We hosted a donation drive in order to generate needed income for future events. Happily, we exceeded the goal which left a surplus of monies.

    During this time we noted that it was specifically the lesser attended fall events that, if not managed correctly, would deplete our funds. It was decided that we would take a step back at our fall events and have them be more of an informal get together. We would also select the camp host for the following year. This would give them about 365 days to prepare for the next large event.

    Knowing the issues we had in relation to monies in the past and how we handled the funds, it was decided that one individual would be in charge of keeping track of the funds. The same log book was used in order to keep accurate data of the monies collected, where they came from, and how it was being spent. Although it sounds like Nazi Germany, this is actually a good thing for any future camp hosts. They no longer need to keep track of the funds. All they need to do is request a dollar amount and it will be dispersed to them.
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    I have often been asked how much money we need to host a spring event and what the money is used for. The average T-shirt sales for most spring events is 25. I bring up T-shirts because this is one way that we generate income. Normally, we put in our order to Ed, he sends the shirts, we sell the shirts, and then we pay him on the back end. I do not feel that this is an appropriate way of doing business (buying something on credit). One thing we will use our general fund for (moving forward) is to pay “up front” for all of the shirts that we order!

    Another expense is in the form of some sort of shelter. Those of us that have been to a lot of camps have been through it all in terms of weather. It is nice to be able to have a shelter where we can get out of the weather. In most places, those shelters need to be rented. In years past, people have come out of pocket in order to pay for those structures. By having a general fund, it will negate all of that.

    Our third expense is in the form of prizes for fishing tournaments. As we grow, it is always nice to be able to have nice prizes for first, second, and third place. In the past several years, many of us have donated prizes. Custom built fishing rods, coolers, bait containers, and gift cards. The vast majority of those products were paid for by club members.
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    HOW DISBURSEMENT WORKS

    The camp host will not be responsible for keeping any monies on hand. That will fall on the financial officer. The camp host simply needs to send a request to the financial officer telling him what they need and what they are purchasing. What this does is puts a “check and balance” in place. You don’t have one person making decisions and then worrying whether others will be upset with their purchase.

    By selecting a camp host (spring) 365 days in advance, it gives them the opportunity to spread out the load. They can take advantage of sales that go on in order to purchase prizes. They can put different ideas in to action without the feeling of being rushed.

    The financial officer does NOT make all the decisions. He simply is in charge of keeping the books. The system that we currently have in place is to get “authorization” from at least two other contributing members. I don’t think it would be effective or prudent to make posts about such things so this will be done in the form of a Private Message or through Telephone conversation. The authorizing parties will be annotated in the log book. These are for purchases needed to host an event. Again, the financial officer does NOT make the decisions. He simply keeps the books and disburses the monies.
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    CHARITABLE DONATIONS

    One of the things that we have prided ourselves on over the last couple of years is charitable donations. We have done a great thing for the community in Newaygo County and would love to be able to continue to contribute to other groups and organizations throughout the State. Unfortunately, when we do these things year after year, several things happen that can negatively impact the outcome. People feel the burden of “having to do something”. Doing the same thing year after year gets stale. We lose attendance because people do not want to continue to contribute. At times some events feel like a fleecing of the wallet. A few dollars for a T-shirt, some money for a fishing contest, raffle tickets: it can become overwhelming.

    By keeping books we will have a clear and concise measure of what is being taken in versus what is being spent. We can adjust our course and speed based on this measure. If we see a surplus in one area, we can make a decision at that time to liquidate funds to a charitable organization. If our funds get to a point where we do not need to generate anything at the next event, we might want to denote our time an effort to raising monies for charity.

    Currently, there is a surplus of funds based on the number I feel confident will get us through the next event. I will not publicly give out this information on an open forum but will give it out to anyone that messages me in private.

    As discussed at the spring event, if you have an organization, group, club, or team in your area that could benefit from a donation, please feel free to post it so that others can comment. Unlike the disbursement of funds for camp hosting, donations will be discussed with the entire group. It is “our” money, and we should have a say on where it goes and how much is disbursed.

    We would like to keep this to “outdoors based” groups, clubs, or organizations.

    As it has probably become obvious, I am the “current” financial officer. Moving forward, if anyone has any ideas, need money requests (for spring OR fall events) please send them to me.

    We have always said that we do not want to become a group that requires a president, a vice president, a secretary, a treasurer, or any other person in power. The ONLY reason we decided to have a financial officer (not treasurer) is so that we had ONE person in charge of the monies and the books so that we could maintain an “accurate” account of our finances and to ensure that no one member ever has to feel the financial burden or responsibility of doing something for the club!
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    Great post Rich!

    It's nice to know how things came to be from the beginning, I had no idea.

    The first camp I was able to attend was the one up at Hardy where we were able to raise enough money to send 2 kids to camp, I was impressed then as I am now how close knit this group is, and that we strive to do good and " give back".

    Personally I like to see kids be on the receiving end of our hard work, last couple camps the "fishing shirts" and rod reel combos for the kids just warmed my heart. If I had a vote as to where a portion of our donations were to go it would be for outdoor sporting activities for kids, maybe a school, a 4-H club that has activities for fishing or shooting sports. Since this is a fishing and not a hunting forum perhaps more on course with fishing outdoor activity. Perhaps a activity we as a group could participate in would be a good choice, I for one took a boaters saety class way back in high school but I'm sure we all could learn from that....where my wife works (Eaton County) they have just such a course......maybe we could have an instructor come to one of our camps and give us a afternoon course.

    Maybe a college fishing team could benefit from our support, I seen the GVSU fishing team at Cabelas in Grandville last year doing some things for kids, so I know the state of Michigan has at least one college fishing team.

    I don't know how anyone else feels but here is a good thread for members to give their thoughts on what we can, as a group, do together.

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    I am with Steve, It is a great post and I don't think anyone understands that no matter how many people attend an event there still is a lot of work. I think some confusion occurred at Waffle because, I could be wrong but, the camp owners didn't know we were coming and as a result we were scattered around the campground. I think in the past a lot of "regulars" posted the site they were going to be on and as a result people were closer together. Might I suggest that when we end a camp, the host for the next "event" has possession of the "Crappie Banner". I think this is the easiest way to find out where Liars Club will be and make it easier for new participants to find the rallying point. I think it would be helpful if the host for the event would post their site location as soon as possible. I think everyone had a great time a Waffle, the fishing was on fire and so was he sun! Thanks again to all who pitched in to make it a success.

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    Great ideas everyone. The current banners are with the boys (for next years spring camp). But I see no reason why we cannot pass them around from one event to the other. Great idea!

    In the coming days (when time allows) I am going to put together some cliff's notes in regards to hosting a camp. I will have Don put it up as a Sticky so that it will be available for everyone to see. This way, people can get used to the type of things that need to be done and the timeframe of which to do it in. They can utilize it to look back on and reference in the event that something might be missed.

    Hopefully it will give a detailed picture of the timeframe to post the flyers and what is included, request T-shirt orders, organize food lists, and who will be coming. This will benefit everyone.
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    Thank You.

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    Rich,

    I was having a text conversation with Steve this morning, about how good it was to wake up as CO CHAMPION for day #5 as the Fall C.C Co Champ.

    Yes we are still basking in some afterglow, or maybe its some of that 875 SPF grease, but STILL .......

    As go Trophy's/prizes for Champions, winners of the event, etc. Has it ever been discussed or been a discussion about a "Traveling Trophy"?

    I know members have made stuff, I saw the sweet stuff from the Spring, although those were AWESOME work, it was exactly that, work by some one.

    I used to hold a archery event at my home every year called the "Cherry Tomato Tournament".

    As an archer, you had to hit a cherry tomato at 20 yards to be involved in the "Shoot Out" to declare the champion.

    Anyway the prize was a small Trophy that you got your name put on and the corresponding year, example, Rich 2015, Kevin 2016, Steve & Aaron 2017, etc.

    The idea was for archers to get together, and hone their skill, and converse, get better, see other's bow, etc. OH, and allot of laughter, and picking on, mostly ME, I was never allowed to win my own tournament..........ALLOT Like Crappie Camp, only allot more of Liars Club

    We had prizes from some big name places, like Rinehart, Bohning, Lancaster, and a few others, the prizes were better then the Trophy, but that TROPHY, was what every one wanted.....

    It could be anything, being that this is Crappie, it could be a nice Crappie mount, Crappie Drawing, art work, etc. Anything. But its a one time investment, and then the cost going forward is minimal. Could maybe get two different ones, one for Spring, and one for Fall?

    We actually had a "Handing Off" Ceremony from one Champ to the next, and those were HILARIOUS

    Just an idea, here is a photo of that Trophy.

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    I actually built one the last time we did an event at Waffle Farms. Might have been the fall of 2012.

    It was built out of walnut and, if I remember correctly, I had woodburnt in the MICDC logo or something like that. It also contained an ice fishing rod and a travel log. The winner got the opportunity to bask in the win for a year but also utilize the rod and write about their accomplishments with it. Last I knew, Eric had it.

    I got the idea from a good friend of mine that was a bow maker. He hand built several recurve bows. One of which he hunted with, wrote a story in the logbook, and then passed the bow and book on to a friend. The rule was simple. Use the bow, hunt with it, take ONE game species with it, and then pass it on to someone else. When a book is filled, send it to him and he would get another one.

    Last I knew, that bow has killed animals in 30 or 40 states, and most of the Canadian Providences! Bear, elk, moose, whitetail, blacktail, gator. Someone might have taken it to Africa. That is a cool trophy!
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