surely you must be a Striper fisherman at heart !! LMAO I say this because Wylie has alot bigger fish & easier to find than Murray ( crappie ) Murray the last few years has been better to me than its history ( I grew up fishing Murray ) I guess the thing about Murray that mades it so hard is it is so big & I know it so well that I dont take the time needed to do good without wanting to move to another spot , this is ture esp when tournament fishing ........