That’s the thing I can't get that one anymore. I like a good rod to do everything I have long rods for spider rigging. Sometime I like to dip by the trees and sometime I like to flip it out and let it swing in. I had a nine foot rod that I was working with. The closest thing I have found is a G. Loomis Bronzeback and that’s a whole lot of money. So I just want to see what everyone thinks. Is there a better rod and value out there?