eric i agree with what you say. i have nothing but admiration for the way crap-king held up under the ribbing everyone knew the loosing team was gonna be dealt with. hes been straight and square since day one. it was all in fun and if theres pouters on either side for any reason they can keep on pouting :D everyone knew going into the thing it was all in fun and i understand some might have got mad. my feelings about that was expressed by bam. no matter how hard you try you cant please em all. from my point of view the participants on both sides was AOK. seems to me like most of the rudness ive encountered comes from those that wasnt even there.....