Black Nose Crappie - Picture

[Fatman]

Never caught one of those before!!!!!!!!! Nice looking fish

Fatman

[crappiehuntr]

we caught some in an Iowa farm pond this winter. I had seen them on one of the midwest crappie shows.

[cpd21]

I've never seen the stripe go that far up the back of the ones we catch on Eufaula

[sac-a-lait]

cpd21 yours probably wasn't a fullbore black nosed crappie then.

Anywhere you have BLACK CRAPPIE you can get a BLACK NOSED CRAPPIE. It's a genetic variation of a Black Crappie.

[CrappiePappy]

cpd21 yours probably wasn't a fullbore black nosed crappie then.

Anywhere you have BLACK CRAPPIE you can get a BLACK NOSED CRAPPIE. It's a genetic variation of a Black Crappie.

You mostly only find Blacknose Crappie in waters where they've been stocked. They do occur in a few places, naturally, though. I believe that the main brood stock originated from a small area of the White River, in Arkansas. And I believe I read somewhere that there's a place in Florida that has a naturally occurring Blacknose population.
They've been stocked in waters all over the Southeast, and probably alot of other places. And you're right ... they are, for all intent and purposes, still a Black Crappie ... and just have a recessive gene trait that produces the black stripe markings.
If/when a Blacknose spawns with a normal Black Crappie ... the offspring will not have the stripe. They must spawn with another Blacknose, to produce striped offspring.

... cp

[cpd21]

The ones we've caught only go about up to the eyes....and yes they are blacks

[sac-a-lait]

Pappy...According to the history of our local Rez, Ross Barnett, Crappie and Catfish were never stocked but we do naturally have both White and Black Crappie AND the Black Nosed Crappie. I guess someone could have put some in the river at some point in time. I would assume since it's a recessive Gene in Black Crappie it would just pop up sooner or later in the gene pool. Kinda like an albino.

[slab_slayin_fool]

Nice Fishie

[CrappiePappy]

Pappy...According to the history of our local Rez, Ross Barnett, Crappie and Catfish were never stocked but we do naturally have both White and Black Crappie AND the Black Nosed Crappie. I guess someone could have put some in the river at some point in time. I would assume since it's a recessive Gene in Black Crappie it would just pop up sooner or later in the gene pool. Kinda like an albino.

I was just going on your statement that "anywhere you have a black crappie, you can get a blacknose crappie" ... and still don't believe that to be true. If it were, then most all lakes with Black Crappie ... would have naturally occurring Blacknose.

I even found an article from Texas, that claimed "experts" now think the gene trait is dominant and not recessive :p (their nickname for the Blacknose, is the "Mohawk Crappie" :D )

And here's an interesting tidbit, that I copied off a Fla F&W Research Inst. article :
"Blacknose crappie, which are black crappie that have a black stripe running from the top fin to the tip of the nose, were first described in Ohio in 1957. A later study reported that blacknose crappie had been found in 13 states, including Florida. Today, the only known naturally occurring Florida population of these fish is found in Lake Seminole near the Florida, Georgia, and Alabama borders."

I was just going on what I'd found from previous research. Seems like alot of the current "research" articles, that I find now, are just rehash ... or they're only concerned with stocking programs, and don't really get into the history of these fish.

... cp

[sac-a-lait]

Interesting subject and thanks for starting it.

Pappy, I was making the statement simply based on my observation and certainly wasn't scientific. But the research you do is awesome. I wanna go catch one of those black-nosed suckers right now!!! I think the Magnolia Crappie has the stripe also.