i try to outguess the fish , i imagine when i walk up to any spot the lay of the water . are they staged out in 5 or deeper water ?if so 3 foot or more deep on my jig , are they in tight and in 2 to 3 foot of water ? 18 inches or possibly less deep on my jig . its a crap shoot till the float goes down sometimes . post spawn fish and prespawn fish often hang out away from the shore a good bit and stumbling on them when they are in tight is just the luck of the draw in the spawn . they dont stay in tight in numbers for long on any spots i hit . today hero tomorrow zero is the word