I went out about 3 1/2 weeks ago on Gaston Lake NC. Saw tons upon tons of bait near the dam with large fish marks about 10 feet above the bait. Fish marks were average 50 feet deep. Figured they were Blue cats so just for the heck of it I dropped my camera down with all 50 feet of cord. Had my IR lights on. Water was black as night at that depth but low and behold I almost crapped my pants when a Blue cat stuck his face right in my camera. So their not perfect but they can be fun.