Thread: New boating regs.

Originally Posted by BULLFROG-1

I would like to add this..........Here in Louisiana Most of our game is gone thanks too pine forest plantation and other factors............The saying the ducks dont come here no more..holds alot of TRUTH...Our WL&F does pretty close to nothing for small game...It may be Time to make some CUTS....I see very little need for THE Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries as it now exists! I Think its A very big expense for our state and its PAST PAST PAST Time we take a hard look at this government agency...And make Some VERY BIG CUTS and some very permanent cuts...This government agency does not do enough for sportsman in a positive way.......not nearly enough........If the only thing the WL&f is do is figure out new ways to FINE us..........lets put a end to this waste of tax payer money.................Remember Everybody We Foot The bill!

Without laws and enforcement to protect those laws, you'd have no game to hunt or fish at all. there are people in this world that will kill everything for a quick buck or for the sake of just doing it.

My great grandfather talked of a time when duck hunters went out and used a small canon mounted to the boat. It would be loaded with shot and powder and they would sneak up to the ducks on the water in the early morning before it got light. Soon as they could see the shadows of the ducks as the sun was coming up, the gun was fired and they would literally kill 30 ducks in one shot. Whats worse is using 2 boats from different angles and just slaughtering them.

When I was in high school a frien of mines father got arrested late one night for poaching deer. He and 2 friends went out that night and shot 7 deer by spotlight. They almost got away with it, but they shoved all 7 deer in the trunk of a cadillac and while driving home, they stopped at a red light and a passing cop noticed the rear of the trunk slightly open and a deer leg sticking out. Thats not the worst part. When they raided the guys home, they found 4 deepfreezers and estimated that between him and his accomplices they had killed over 40 deer in a 5 week period.

About 6 years ago, you might remember this story from the town talk. 2 men were caught on the red river using an electric shock device to take catfish illegally. They had been under investigation for some itme and when caught theyhad 200 pounds of catfish in the boat and 2 shocking devices.
Im pretty sure it wasnt their first time, and if they hadnt got caught they would of continued. How many thousands of pounds of fish did they take before being caught?

While some laws bring about strong emotions, they are not always unjustified. Facts show that many boaters die due to being thrown from the boat and run over by that same boat.

I did some research and heres the facts from 2007

2007 Executive Summary
National Recreation Boating Program

Deaths dropped from 710 in 2006 to 685 in 2007
Accidents rose from 4697 to 5191

Over two-thirds of all fatal boating accident victims drowned, and of those, ninety (90) percent were not wearing a life jacket.

Only fourteen (14) percent of deaths occurred on vessels where the operator had received boating safety instruction.

Three out of every four boaters who drowned were using vessels less than 21feet in length

If you want to read the full report here is the link:
Home - National Association of State Boating Law Administrators
(look on the right hand side and the link to the statistics is there)

Team M&M give us the statistics for all the people that ride in a boat in the UNITED STATES in a 12 month period~~~~~~~~~~~~then tell us how many die in a 12 month period due to drowning?????Then give us the stats for the drowned ones that have drugs an booze in the system!!!!Righteousness is not an acceptable reason to take away my freedom of choice!

Originally Posted by Team M&M

Without laws and enforcement to protect those laws, you'd have no game to hunt or fish at all. there are people in this world that will kill everything for a quick buck or for the sake of just doing it.

While some laws bring about strong emotions, they are not always unjustified. Facts show that many boaters die due to being thrown from the boat and run over by that same boat.

Totally agree. You took the words out of my mouth.

this is a great discussion, but i have to agree with bullfrog. i ware my pfd not because it is required but because i want to. i do not smoke because i don't want to smoke, but for the government to tell me i have to do somthing, that is taking away one more of my freedom. should a pfd be worn, yes. should i be made by the government to ware one, no. if a person does not want to ware a pfd that should be his choice, same as if i want to fish with a crappie pole and you want to yo yo, everyone should be able to make their own choice. right or wrong that is my thoughts and i am proud to be an American and still make some choices of my own.

they are knocked out of the boat, perhaps unconscious, I want life jackets on them so they have a chance of surviving the wreck

I don't believe an unconscious person has much of a chance even with a PFD on. Most PFD's are not designed to right a person, they are only designed to hold a person at the surface of the water and that person must have the strength to hold his/her head above the water. I have pulled victims from the water that were wearing their PFD's and all were face down. All the PFD did was make it easier to locate them.

I wear my PFD and kill cord every time I get in my boat, but that is my choice. I am just tired of all the BS laws just to make a dime. With all the laws that are on the books now a days, it seems like we are becoming more of a communist country. Pretty soon, if we don't put our foot down and stand strong we will have someone telling us when to take a dump and how to wipe our rear.


Warren

it seems like we are becoming more of a communist country. Pretty soon, if we don't put our foot down and stand strong we will have someone telling us when to take a dump and how to wipe our rear.


Warren[/QUOTE]


Enter Obama!!!!:D

I couldn't agree more! I don't think anyone is arguing that wearing a life jacket and a kill switch is SAFER than NOT wearing them. ANyone?.....Any takers? So, it simply comes down to the necessity of that law, or the lack there of.

Seat belts and helmets are the same way. They really dont' affect anyone but me. It should be MY choice, certainly not the government's choice.

As far as using the analogy of the hospital bills that the taxpayer has to foot, that excuse doesn't hold much water with me either. First of all, from what I can see in our liberal media, "my" government wants to give ME FREE healthcare! They think I shouldn't pay anything anyway. Magine that. Heck, by this socialist / communist approach they won't mind if I can't pay, YOU guys got my slack!

And that's my point, the fact that the taxpayer has to pay for our ignorance in not wearing that safety equipment is not the problem, certainly not enough of the problem to ennact another law on me. The REAL problem is the system itself! The system that requires me to pay for that idiot! ie..big insurance companies, lawyers, environmentalist, lawyers, bunny huggers, the ACLU, lawyers and just big government in general, making more rules for my life, complicating day to day procedures, and draining my pockets to give to those that don't deserve it instead of those that have earned it.

Now, I don't pretend to know it all, and I don't think I can't learn something. But I aint afraid to call like it is either. brother if you can argue with what I just wrote, then you are not an American. You have been brainwashed. You have fallen victim to the rhetoric and delusional rantings of the few and mistaken it for the mindset of the many.
We are the many. Believe that and tell all you can they are not alone in their thinking. Right is still right.

I apologize if this offended anyone, but if it did, it was meant to. Wake up.

hypothermia and booze thats what drowns people.In a lot of places in the deep of winter you would die even with your life jacket on..............An adult should make the life jacket decision for his or her self!

okay---i've stayed out of this as long as i can. let me tell you a little story that will go right along with what kman posted.

4 MEN ALWAYS GO TO EAT TOGETHER. THEY PAY FOR THEIR MEAL ACCORDING TO WHAT EACH MAN CAN PAY. THEIR TOTAL BILL IS $60. ONE MAN PAYS $30, ONE MAN PAYS $20, ONE MAN PAYS $10 AND THE FOURTH MAN PAYS NOTHING. THEY ALL GET THE SAME MEAL, JUST PAY DIFFERENT AMOUNTS.

WELL, AFTER A FEW YEARS OF DOING THIS, THE RESTAURANT OWNER WANTS TO SHOW SOME APPRECIATION FOR THESE MEN BEING LOYAL CUSTOMERS. SO HE LOWERS THEIR TOTAL BILL TO $50--THAT'S A $10 SAVINGS. NOW HOW DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD SPLIT THAT $10.

WELL IF YOU ASK BIG BROTHER, THEY WOULD GIVE EACH MAN $2.50. SO HERE IS THE NEW SCENARIO. MAN ONE NOW PAYS $27.50, MAN TWO PAYS $17.50, MAN THREE PAYS $7.50 AND MAN FOUR (WHO WILL PROBABLY VOTE FOR OBAMA) MAKES $2.50.

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO PAYS WHAT, BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING BACK, THE MAN THAT PAYS NOTHING IS "ENTITLED" TO THE SAME REWARDS AS THE MAN WHO HAS BASICALLY PAID FOR HIS LUNCH FOR THREE YEARS. THIS KINDA SUCKS.

WE BETTER PRAY LIKE HELL AND BE SURE TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER!!!!

SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS?????????????