Another thing is this, these are big crappie baits, I tie some for a guy and his father, they crappie fish while spider rigging, they are very secretive as to their crappie fishing but being the guy that supplies them with their jigs, they confide in me as to their effectiveness. I know of maybe 4-5 crappies over 3lbs. and countless over 2lbs. they have taken on these jigs tipped with a small minnow. then there was a crappie that looked to be close to 4lbs. they lost at the net. they use the colors that have proven to catch sizable crappies and the colors can change from year to year. they like the heads painted and a green head with green hair is one of the favorites, I'm talking Kelly green hair and the head may be a little brighter, then there is the one with a fl. yellow head and purple hair, and if the water is muddy orange and fl. yellow hair with an orange head and thread. there it is I have spilled my guts, my personal fishing partner tries to get me to keep quiet about them but that just isn't my way, especially since I know they have no source for them lol.