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    Keep in mind that tightlining over the side of the boat your rod tip is serving the same purpose a a cork in showing you the bite. Like a cork, a good rod tip will show you everything that's happening below the surface with your bait. If you cant see the bites you cant catch the fish!!!!!!!!!! Once you have selected the rods you are gonna use, a very useful thing to help you see the bite is to paint the rod tips white with a flat white spray paint . Wrapping a piece of electrical tape around the rod at the second eye will keep your paint job looking neat and professional. I know it will be hard to take a can of white paint to your rod tips but this will greatly increase your ability to see the soft taps that come with a bite. Bite the bullet and paint the tip. you wont regret doing it. Actually my night fishing rods are used exclusively for night stalking so painting the tips dint bother me a bit. If you're using the longer rods whose tips are out in the dark, away from the light, you will notice a huge increase in your ability to see the light bites crappie have. If you are around the boat landings watching boats put in you will quickly be able to identify the night stalkers in the know because their rod tips are usually painted white or some other highly visible color so they can pick up on the bite. Anything you can do to your rigs to help you notice the light taps crappie are famous for, do it.


    The reels I use are all ultralites, loaded with 6 lb high visibility line which will aid you in detecting a bite. Before you set your rod in the rodholder, check the drag and adjust as needed to a slab wont break the line because of a drag that's stuck. A lot of times, if a drag hasn't been used in awhile they will sorta stick and wont give when needed. A short tug on the line will free it and get it ready to go.

    Pay attention to what the line is telling you. If it suddenly goes limp, set the hook. If you suddenly have a line that is hanging at an angle different than the rest of the lines, there is a fish moving with the bait, set the hook. I use a removable split shot, usually a #3, and #4 gold eagle claw hook to complete the terminal end. Don't put the shot on the line over a couple inches above the hook because your rod tips are usually fairly close together and if the minnows have too much freedom to swim around they tend to tangle with each other and create a mess for you.

    Once you put your rods out, fish tightline with minnows. Start out putting your baits at different depths until you find a depth that they seem to be hitting the most at, and move all your baits to this depth. 8-10 foot is a good starting point. Most of the bites that come will come will be a very soft tap, often times just barely moving the tip, indicating a bite. Be prepared to lift the rod immediately after the first tap. If you wait till the second tap it usually don't come. Lifting the rid immediately will often times set the hook in the fish before he has a chance to spit the minnow out.

    Keeping minnows alive on the warmer nights can present problems for you. I sometimes use the floating minnow buckets I hang over the side to store them in till they are needed, then I dip a few at a time into a storage bucket within reach. This will keep em alive. If I buy my bait from a dealer whose tanks are refrigerated then I use the little bubble aerators available for around 5 bucks and run off batteries. If you take minnows out of refrigerated water and put em in warm surface lake water for storage the shock will kill a lot of em. Buying bait from a dealer who uses refrigerated bait tanks you need to use caution. The refrigeration will keep his minnows alive till he sells em, but once you've paid for em and walk out the door, they are yours. I've also noticed that minnows bought from a bait dealer whose water is not refrigerated tend to live longer once you take then out of the store in warmer weather than one whose tanks are refrigerated. Just a thought to keep in mind.

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    In cold weather I prefer the small minnows because they seem to live fairly well after a hook damages them. In warmer water, the larger minnows (medium) seem to hold up to hook damage better and not die as quickly. Where you hook the minnow is a matter of personal preference. I usually go in one eye and out the other.

    Occasionally we will put out a bobber, normally one per angler. If you get too many bobbers floating around they are going to get in everyone's way. Usually the folks on the down current end of the boat will be the only ones that can use a bobber out in the dark without creating problems for everyone as the bobbers will drift down current and the lines will drift in next to the boat be in the way. The bobbers we use are mostly the lighted ones that we can see out in the darkness. If you're fishing close to the boat, , then regualr bobbers will work fine if it is illuminated by the boats lights. If you haven't tried the lighted bobbers yet you should get you one and give it a try. It is extremely exciting to watch a lighted bobber in the darkness start dancing when the fish takes the bait. We fish a fixed cork about two ft of line below the hook, usually a # 2 eagle claw gold and no splitshot. Some nights it seems like our best action comes on the lighted bobbers.


    On board your boat you should also keep a camera handy to get a photo of a nice fish as soon as it comes out of the water. They look better when first caught than after they've laid in a cooler and got their "clothes" ,messed up. The excitement of the catcher is also more obvious at this time. I know the guys that fish with me sometimes gets annoyed with me telling em to hold up your slab and lets get a photo. Believe me its a lot easier to do it right after it comes out of the water than after he's tossed it in a cooler. Sometimes they will grumble but always look forward to getting the photos which I give em when I get a chance.

    Most nights you are going to catch some fish. Some nights more so than others. Different locations produce differently on different nights and some locations are seasonal, being better at different times of the year. Finding your hot spots is a matter of trial and error. Once you have pinpointed your holes and know the conditions that produce a good bite at that location you are well on your way to harvesting a quality mess of tasty crappie fillets. Finding good locations on your lake comes with experience. As I said earlier, a good map is worth its weight in gold for doing this.

    A bonus of nightstalking is the lights attract many different species of fish and you will also catch LM bass, catfish, perch, etc. In cold water lakes where there is a more variety of fish to catch, you will also catch them around the lights. Catching a bass or large catfish on a ultralite rig is exciting and gives you ample experience in untangling the huge messes they make with the rest of the rigs you have out.

    We nightstalk year round and usually catch most of our bigger fish through the colder months. In our area there is plenty of nights that you can spend on the water fishing if you carry a duffel to store your clothes in to use as you need em. When the nights turn bitter cold, then I come out of the dark and start drifting the deeper water with minnows during the warmer hours of daylight.

    The methods and equipment I've described is how I have my boat set up. If you are new at the night stalking game, I would recommend you join a crappie fishing forum like www.crappie.com and get to know some locals who will take you out on a night stalk. By doing this you will be learning a lot of short cuts on how you can to set your boat up by following their leads or modifying their methods to suit your particular situation.

    If you are a laid back type of fisherman who enjoys being on the water when the sun goes down, when the pleasure boaters, water skiers and and jet skis have called it a day, anchored in one spot enjoying a quiet night with your family or friends, then you should give nightstalking a try.

    Suddenly I was brought out of my thoughts and back to the present by Gary hollering, "fish on. Hey Rango, are you gonna put a line in or you gonna sit there all night?". Time to start baiting up and helping him out with the bite. Good luck with your night stalking and good fishing.




    This is how I have my rod racks constructed on my boat, referred to as "the Beast" by those who night stalk out of it. As you can see, if you have your rods at your fingertips you can respond to the bite very quickly. The type of rod holders and how you have them mounted is a matter of personal choice, however they must hold your rods at the ready so you can respond immediately to the bite.






    Here is one of the two chain style anchors i use on the beast. as you can see from the design, if you snag the anchor on something you can pull the rope in the opposite direction of the hang, the slip ring on the shaft will slip to the anchor head and pull the anchor loose. a very effective anchoring system that works fantastic for me. these anchors hang and hang good and very seldom will i have an anchor slip out of its set and create drift problems for me. note the storage bucket that keeps the anchor rope stored and tangle free. Its a good idea to tie a block of Styrofoam to the end of the rope incase the rope gets away from you or you need to toss the anchor rope overboard to free the other stuck anchor with the motor.






    The submersible lights I use on a night stalk. the lights you use are a matter of personal choice. there's many different styles and configurations on the market. Id recommend you try several different lights to see which one works the best for you.






    Here is a typical clamp on light with a small reflector that's been modified by adding alligator clips to hook on the battery, a strong clamp to attach it to a light pole and a 12 volt 40 watt rv bulb that runs off a deep cycle battery. I use two of these lights on the beast, mounted above the console, one pointed toward the front and one pointed toward the back. these two lights completely light up the boats interior, making it very easy to see what's going on in the boat. this setup can also be clamped to the boats gunnels and shined on the water to draw the minnows in.






    Once you have your anchors set, the fishing lights and interior lighting on, and your rods in the rod holders, this is what your setup will look like. the water is lit up by submersible lights which will attract the crappie to the bait fish that is drawn to your rigs.






    The end result of a successful night stalk







    Cold weather don't stop our nightstalking, unless its a bitterly cold night. as long as the temps are bearable we will continue to fish through the winter months and some of our best night and biggest fish are caught during the colder months.






    Even small children can participate in a night stalk and they usually catch their fair share of the crappie. memories to last a lifetime are made on nights like this.






    Bass, commonly referred to as "green carp" by local night stalkers are a common visitor to a night stalk and these fish can wreck havoc on a night stalkers setup. very seldom do you get one to the net without a mess being made of your setup.







    Catfish are also a common visitor to your stalker setups at night. referred to as "thugs" by area night stalkers, these creatures can also create huge problems on a night stalkers set up with ultra lite rigs.





    If you do your homework and set up successfully for a night stalk for crappie you can be carrying a cooler full of fish like these pictured home for a family fish fry.


    article by Rango

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    you can't expect a great crappie man like rango to take his time to teach you

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalconSmitty
    you can't expect a great crappie man like rango to take his time to teach you
    But what I don't understand is why you hook minnows through the eyes.?
    Is this so the minnow won't see what's coming and try to swim away?
    I always hook my minnow in the tail because it seems less cruel to the minnow. and also so theywon't swim away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beagler
    But what I don't understand is why you hook minnows through the eyes.?
    Is this so the minnow won't see what's coming and try to swim away?
    I always hook my minnow in the tail because it seems less cruel to the minnow. and also so theywon't swim away.
    it dont matter where you hook em for nightstalking, lips, eyes, back or tail. i like the eyes cause its a easier target for me than the back or tail. the lip hook is the best if you pulling em. big bass minnows is no problem for me. i prefer the back or lips when using them for live baiting striper. the tail is my least favorite. theres no place you can hook em that makes the minnow happy. hed rather you use a jig :D
    listen with your eyes---its the only way to beleive what you hear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalconSmitty
    you can't expect a great crappie man like rango to take his time to teach you
    anyone want to learn what i know, which aint much, all they gotta do is climb in my boat for a nightstalk
    listen with your eyes---its the only way to beleive what you hear...

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