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    So I bought a Tracker 175 last month and two days after getting it took it down to Lake Marion. Went into Stumphole with raised motor and idled to the places I've found these last few years back in there. No problems. Pretty slow fishing so decided to go to Jacks Creek, where I've never been because I've never felt entirely comfortable on that bigger water in my Gheenoe. Long story short, I got out of the river channel (which I think is poorly marked) and realizing I was in 6 feet of water, slowed to just above idle but didn't raise the motor and hit a stump at less than 10mph destroying my prop. It took 2 hours to limp back to Stumphole landing, and a trip to Columbia to get a new prop and salvage the weekend trip.

    Can someone clarify the navigation hazards, specifically the rock piles, at either end of the canal? Also, I understand red and green navigation bouys, but do not understand the poles with square placard on top, some with numbers, most with nothing.
    If I'm not mistaken, on most lakes an underwater obstacle is marked with a white buoy/orange diamond. I realize as well, that Lake Marion is one big underwater hazard and no way can they mark everything. There are rock piles on each end of the canal and on both sides as I understand. A friend told me if going from the canal to Moultrie, "Don't get out of the 'lane' because there are rock piles just under the water. On the other end, outside of the canal toward Harrys near the Marion dam there are several markers that say "ROCK" but is that it? Do those poles identified only with a number indicate an underwater hazard?

    Is there any newer maps or software that offers some level of safe navigation or am I missing something, or is that just the hazard of fishing the Santee lakes?

    I've puttered all over up in and near Stumphole in my little Gheenoe with a 9.9 hp but suddenly feel helplessly in danger of prop and engine damage in this newer boat. Yet I see people running at speed in bass boats, center consoles, deep V's etc. Am I missing something obvious?

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    The posts with squares and numbers are the channel markers. Basically the one you are at, aim for the next one. The clear channel is narrow and VERY curvy. Very easy to get out of it. Navionics is very close and you could probably follow it. If you don't have it you can even download their boating app on your phone.Name:  Screenshot_20230622-194540.jpg
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    As you mentioned.....lakes can become very dangerous to your equipment. IMO nothing replaces time spent on the water "learning" the areas you are fishing in. A good depth finder with maps is CRUTIAL marking underwater obstacles. In my lakes the red and green markers mark the river channels (green is Ga/red is SC). The creek channels are also marked in creeks full of submerged timber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbz View Post
    The posts with squares and numbers are the channel markers. Basically the one you are at, aim for the next one. The clear channel is narrow and VERY curvy. Very easy to get out of it. Navionics is very close and you could probably follow it. If you don't have it you can even download their boating app on your phone.Name:  Screenshot_20230622-194540.jpg
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    I know when heading upstream keep the red markers on the right, green on left and mark the original river channel. But you're saying the poles with squares and numbers are channel markers as well. Do you keep these markers to the right or left depending on going upstream or down? Or if you're aiming from one to the next you're okay as long as you pass close to them?
    On the second day there I did get the Navionics app on my phone which is helpful in following the river channel. But I'm still confused as to the rock piles at either end of the canal. Thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabowman View Post
    As you mentioned.....lakes can become very dangerous to your equipment. IMO nothing replaces time spent on the water "learning" the areas you are fishing in. A good depth finder with maps is CRUTIAL marking underwater obstacles. In my lakes the red and green markers mark the river channels (green is Ga/red is SC). The creek channels are also marked in creeks full of submerged timber.
    You mean a depthfinder with map built in correct? I've been looking at upgrading to a side scan Garmin 7 or 8 but for another $100 bucks I can get the map version. Certainly cheaper than a prop, or worse, a lower unit. I guess at either Santee lake, it's just a good idea to raise the motor any time you're in water less than 10 feet deep. Although I've not yet been in Moultrie, my understanding is, unlike Marion, Moultrie WAS mostly logged before flooding. I need to go to Santee sometime and forget fishing, just find some safe passages to places I want to fish, like you said. Hard to drive 4 hours and not fish though!!! Thanks for the help!

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    Ive gotten to where I wouldnt run my boat without maps (GPS) on anymore. The maps shows you soooooo much...creek/river channels, submerged timber, etc. Even when trolling you can see when youre coming up on a shallow point so you can adjust course before getting too shallow. And alot of times my longlining involves following the creek channels which are also marked on the maps. Theres so many people that just doesnt realize how shallow theyre running their boats/props when they dont kave a depth finder with maps.
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    The rockpile I know of on the canal is man made and plenty deep enough not to be a hazard. It's there, along with the rocks at the top of either side, to be a fail safe should one dam or the other fail, to hold water in the other lake, as to not completely drain both lakes. That's how it was explained to me anyway.
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    I've bought and installed a new Garmin Echomap UHD 93sv. I've been wanting a side view sonar, figured I'd get the 7 and didn't really need the maps, but gabowman makes sense and the maps are at the very least, handy to have. Bass Pro had some of the last generation 93's on sale, and family had given me a BP gift card so I pulled the trigger.
    Of course I had to get a Ram mount, which is awesome by the way! Everything is installed and working and I am itching to get on the water with it. I think this (4th of July) weekend is not the time though, so I'm gonna have to itch a while before scratching.
    I realize the map won't ID all underwater obstacles but certainly will be helpful in following channels and for monitoring water depth BEFORE I wander into shallow water. Helpful for fishing AND navigating. Can't wait to try the side scan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreednNC View Post
    The rockpile I know of on the canal is man made and plenty deep enough not to be a hazard. It's there, along with the rocks at the top of either side, to be a fail safe should one dam or the other fail, to hold water in the other lake, as to not completely drain both lakes. That's how it was explained to me anyway.
    The day after destroying my prop on upper Marion as described in the OP, we went to the canal. Where the canal opens up into Marion I saw boats fishing near one of those markers on the left. Later we ventured up near there, idling along to see if we could see what it was and hit something with my new one day old prop. Wasn't like a stump, figured rock and sure enough had small chips along the leading edge. Thank goodness we were barely moving but still, rough on the motor.
    So.... I don't know.
    But as you exit the canal it's on the left, near the first marker. Further up Mac's and Harry's is on your right and there ARE some markers that say "ROCK". I'm going back down in July and I may venture up to near that spot and using side scan, see if I can see just what is where. I intend to spend some time in that area NOT fishing just trying to learn the water.

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    To start, invest in a stainless prop. Secondly, get a CMC kick up jack plate. These two items will allow low speed stump strikes without damage to either prop or motor. Marion can be hazardous, but there are many many safe lanes to run on speed. Any time you exit the river channel the water depth will shallow. This doesn’t mean you can’t run on speed, you just need to know the safe lane. There are three well marked lanes into Jacks Creek, the first two will need to be learned by watching others or going with someone that knows them. The third can be ran on speed by anyone. Go to channel marker 132 in the river, hang a left staying centered in creek, water will be 5 to 6 feet to start but most importantly stump free.
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