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    I am not sure why my images did not upload...will try again. Let me know what you think...I think that the images are OK now but I am going to tweak the transducer to get as much as I can out of it. Also...is that baitfish I am seeing in my images?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hartwa View Post

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    Great shot of the bridge piling...

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    I'm thinkin the image below may be a school of fish...by being able to pick out individual echoes in that wad...

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    The image below looks like brush with mixed in baitfish...

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    The image below...too much red for baitfish in the 2d ...this one needs rescanning from several directions...

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    The image below...circled in red is probably a school of fish or baitfish...(did you notice the defined thermocline in this pic..??)

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    The image below...this is a known software issue with the DI Enhance Sharpness setting...turn Sharpness Off...

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    Seems the shots are really getting dragged out when your down near the 0.? area. Try and maintain a steady speed and straight run. I normally see the grainy effect come into play when I start adjusting sharpness, this can be even more evident if the Sen. and Con. are not set right for the conditions you are in.

    In your last shot above I can see where the screen was stopped then started again in deeper water, some detail can be seen but then when the screen was stopped again the shot was different. May be from coming off the motor to get the first shot and then a drift for the one you posted. At a slow drift I get the strung out shot as well in DI and the other issues may just fall on the settings.

    In the third shot up you can see this strung out return in 2D/DI/SI and the one at just .4 higher shows good. This sometimes happens when the fish are in your 200 beam (2D) and are follow the same path. As Rickie stated for 2D the returns have a lot of red for bait...maybe larger fish in your 200 beam but more passes will tell the story.
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    Thanks a lot for all the responses..... I feel I am at least set up now to have confidence that the locator can find schools of slabs if they are present... The search continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkcrappie View Post
    LowePro, I am in the beginning stages of learning to read these screens too. How deep did you catch the fish in the water column? From what I understand, those should be half way up in the water column??
    Fish were staged from 12-16 fow, and I spider rigged with hooks at 9-10 feet down. Once I located the fish I post up on them with my 2D sonar so I could see the schools "true depth" in the water column.

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    I have read an article about judging the depth of fish from the side imaging point of view. And it is quite complicated. It makes sense to me, but there is absolutely no way I could explain this due to my perceptions of what I read (meaning i think I understand/ but also may be a chance Im wrong, and also a lack of appropriate terminology) I can tell you the article was posted on this website as a thread, and then reposted again as a sticky. So for me, for now.... I see em on side imaging, mark em, then turn to either down imaging or 2d and look at em from right above. I rely on 2d mostly when looking at just suspended fish. I can have huge blobs of fish on 2d and switch over to down imaging and it may not show a thing. But in contrast, the 2d will show a big blob that goes all the way to the bottom, I will switch over to my down imaging and it shows a tree top, or brush pile or whatever is there, and still, and dense. If fish were in that brushpile and being still in it, they will show up on the down imaging, and it is clear as day. But wen looking at or for suspended fish from above I use 2d way more, and only switch to down imaging when I think I may b looking at structure. The reason being... from what I have read, is that the hi def down imaging sonar waves are so much thinner and they may omit a moving object in the water, where when the much thicker 2d sonar waves would have picked up the moving object in the water. So I compare the 2 different images to diagnose what Im looking at. I have only been using these things since march, and this is what has worked for me the best so far. Im just amateur tho, would definitely take others advice over mine if its conflicting with what they say.

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    Low you probably know this already but with the heat of summer on us try out in the deep stuff as well. Here in TN I am finding larger fish suspended over 50 fow at the 10-20 foot area. Not rigged to run any spider rigs so have been running deeper cranks through these areas to pull them in. Best locations have been the wind swept side of the lake, I will run and find as the morning goes on more bait fish will be found as well as the schools of crappie. hope it helps.

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    I am new to this fishng deep water thing. I did not know that they would stack up in that deep of water. I will definitely go check that out! Thans for the tip and keep em coming! I need all the help I can get. How long does the wiind have to blow in a certain direction to get the baitfish on the windy side?

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    Wish I knew, I started shortly after sun up. Wind was not bad, by 8 it was steady, not good for still fishing and trying to stay on a spot but for trolling not a problem. With each pass I noticed that more and more bait and larger fish were grouping in that area. A big misconception I think is that the wind blows the bait to that spot...It's more of what the bait is feeding on that get pushed over there and leads the bait there and brings the others with them.

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    From his first picture...I would say the top ones are half way down and then rest are there to the bottom. I don't know....still learning too.

    I went out with my father in law yesterday. i spent a good hour looking over the lake with SI trying to find the crappies...no luck. He was hassling me the whole time to stop looking around and just start fishing. Brings me to a good question...

    I would think given the investment...you guys also do not start fishing until you find fish on the locator...correct? What do you look for...let me clarify....I see all kinds of things on my SI, DI and 2D. What makes you stop and say..."here they are" or " this is interesting enough to try"?

    Just wondering...there was a couple of time yesterday when I say enough on my SI to think there might be a school of fish down there but was not confident enough to give it a try.

    Thanks for the help again.

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