I would think there would be a link dedicated just to spider rigging and/pulling cranks. If so I can't find one. If not I think it would be helpful for beginners like me to have as a resource.
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I would think there would be a link dedicated just to spider rigging and/pulling cranks. If so I can't find one. If not I think it would be helpful for beginners like me to have as a resource.
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Use the forum search function and you will find tons of info on it....The MS board has a Sticky at the top of the page Called pulling cranks 101 http://www.crappie.com/crappie/missi...-cranks-101-a/
SC board has a Sticky on Longlining questions http://www.crappie.com/crappie/south...ing-questions/
I think thats a great idea. Always wondered how you guys down south did that. It's not permitted here in Michigan.
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I'll say it again: Crappie.com is one giant spider rigging forum.
Ok so I've paged through both links (not an exhaustive search) and I see pulling cranks and long lining. I'm more interested in traditional spider rigging. I would think a thread on s/r would be helpful if you did not have to search each state forum individually.
I am wanting to discuss purchasing a set of 14 foot rods and would like pro and con on brand, price, action. I would think you would get more input on a subject related forum vs a state forum. There's a lot of riggers in Missouri but I thing others would benefit from a sticky type link.
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It's been brought up before, and no consensus was reached on starting such a forum ... mainly because it could lead to separate forums for every conceivable form of Crappie fishing.
You want to "discuss" brand/price/action of long rods ... have at it. You will get multiple opinions on which ones are "the best". The same with line, reels, baits, rod holders, weight size, speed, live bait vs artificial vs both together, plain hook vs jig, which style hook the jig should have or what size plain hook you should use, and even how many you should have on the line (and whether the weight should be above them, below them, or in between them).
Thing is (IMHO) ... they all work !!
If memory serves me ... the more popular 14' rods are :
BnM Capps/Coleman - or - Southern Crappie scr143's for "spider rigging"
BnM Pro Staff Trolling rods - or - Southern Crappie scr143t's for "crank pushing"
The BnM C/C is listed at ~$52 & the PST at ~$48 at Grizzly Jig Company (both rods are eligible for their 3rod 9.5% discount deal)
Southern Crappie scr143 is listed at ~$42 & the scr143t at ~$47 at Southern Crappie Rods (Southern Crappie rods in 12-16' lengths are Kevlar/carbon composite)
Click on this...I just searched the main board for 14 ft. poles for spider rigging. http://www.crappie.com/crappie/searc...rchid=20900684
I live in West tn and spider rig all year. I jig to but spider more. I have 16 ft wally Marshall IM6 graphite Rods. Mine are medium / heavy action and I wish I would have got just a heavy action at times because it makes it hard getting them to boat in net . Now I like them because i can see a lil nibble on them in wind and stuff. I think they all will have pros and cons. You just have to figure out what u want more.on my reels I have diawa sweep fire I think that's what they are. I like to use the stealth glow vis braid line. I will put a good amount of cheap line on the reel and then tie my good line on to it and put enough on there to last a while with swapping jigs and what not. Maybe this info will help you a lil. Good luck
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Here is a recent discussion on the main board http://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-...ods-scr-143-a/
And another one from main board. http://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-...ider-rig-rods/
And you dont have to search individual forums.......used advanced search and search them all at one time.....search for spider rig rods brought this up....http://www.crappie.com/crappie/searc...rchid=20900818
That's what I did. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to computers.
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South Bend 14 ft, check them out!
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Originally Posted by jigfisherx
I thought it was a good idea too. Sometimes the things you learn don't involve a "search" word or an idea or technique that you're familiar with. The main Crappie forum thread is too diverse. Im still trying to figure out why its such a bad idea to have a dedicated trolling section for the biggest Crappie site on the net.
Don't forget BnM Uncle Bucks 14 ft jigging poles (BGJP143-N)Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
You can read down about half way in this article about my use of the Uncle Bucks (http://www.crappie.com/crappie/conte...south-carolina). Love them for jigging the pads and spider rigging. Multi purpose.
We can "try" anything. Forums can always be merged if it don't get enough use. What we need is a volunteer to moderate it. That's always been the thing here, you want a forum, all we need is someone that'll watch it to make sure it remains "kid friendly", and spam free. And since "G" approves all new members by hand, spam is rarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammmerhead
Thanks Slab. I have a friend that just bought the 14 ft southern rods. We plan to try them out next week and I think that is what I'm going to get. Look forward to meeting you in person at Missouri camp. Again thanks for all you do here.
Jeff
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For the buck that is as good as it gets, The Southerns, great rod, great service and great owner. :twocentsQuote:
Originally Posted by jigfisherx
And it's done, we have ca new forum. Tracker81 volunteered to moderate it, thanks. And this is the first thread I moved here. Since one of the premises was that it would be for beginners, I made it a sub forum under the Beginners/Mentoring forum. Not sure if that's the right place for it long term, but that's where it'll start at.
I know some may say that there are too many forums already, but there are a couple ways to see everything that's going on here, at any time and that's with:
the ALL STUFF tab at the top: http://www.crappie.com/crappie/activity.php
or the New Posts tab at the top: http://www.crappie.com/crappie/searc...e=vBForum_Post
I am an old man. I started fishing on Lake Cumberland with my dad and Grandpa. Got sea sick and threw up at the restaurant at breakfast. We had a Alumacraft 14' boat, an eighteen horse Johnson, and a skull paddle. No trolling motor, no electronics, and them waves from Rowenna Ferry to Otter Creek we're huge. This was back in the late 50's and early 60's. Now, 60 years later, I started Spider Rigging. Bought a 20' Triton TA 196 made for spider rigging. Invested a bunch if money, and I think we caught as many fish with that little boat and that wooden paddle.
Could you imagine what it would be like if everyone took there electronics off for a weekend and everyone posted a comment on their thoughts and how many fish were caught. I think it would be interesting. Every now and then I don't use mine for a little while and it is tough.Quote:
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Sounds like me back then, except I used a rowboat and fished for trout in Montana. I still use the rowboat when in Montana, and there are no electronics. Other guys have ALL of the latest stuff, including downriggers and cameras focused on the baits. The technical equipment does everything but pry open the fish's jaws and insert the hook. I still catch a limit and release a lot of trout.Quote:
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Crappie, on the other hand, are a LOT easier to get when you have good electronics. My son has good electronics, and they have really helped his catch rate.
Go to youtube and watch Ed Duke videos to learn the basics of spider rigging. Very educational & entertaining. Do what he does & you will catch some.
I have switched to a Terrova from cable control. What do you do when fishing timber?
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If the timber is submerged, you fish over top of it. If it's standing timber that's showing above the surface ... I wouldn't spider rig it nonono (but I would cast around them or jig beside them, using a weedless jighead)Quote:
Originally Posted by jigfisherx
I'm thinking about spider riigging?
What would be the shortest rods I could get a way with?
I know, the shallower the crappie are,
The longer the rods!
But 16 ft is to much for me!
I plan to use line counter reels,,
( my Christmas present to myself)
But I can hardly keep from breaking my 10ft rods I use to long line troll?
But I don't wanna spend $400 on rods, and then by late spring ,, and think I shoulda bought something else!
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Just my :twocents opinion, as I don't actually do the Spider Rigging technique ... but, considering what my Spider Rigging friends do :Quote:
Originally Posted by Astrick
The shortest rod you can get away with would likely be a 12' rod ... but that may also depend on what type of boat you have, layout of it, shape of the bow, and how close you can get your rod holders to the front of the boat (& still reach them without having to bend completely over to reach them). The brand/style of rod holder may also present a problem, if the rod handles aren't long enough to reach the handle end loop without the reel being in the way of the front part of the holder.
I don't understand, however, why you think you would need line counter reels to Spider Rig with ... unless you also intend to Push/Pull or longline with these same outfits. And in that case, you wouldn't be placing the rods pointing directly in front of the boat, anyway, so rods from 14' down to 6' could be used ....
as evidenced by my 4rod spread in this picture :
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The left holder has a 10' rod in front & a 14' rod in back -- the right holder has a 14' rod in front & a 6' rod in back. They are all being used to "Push" jigs & cranks, with 1.5oz weights @ ~1mph (at that time).
Only true "Spider Rig" fishing I ever did was from the back of a buddy's boat, with two 10' rods and that same 6' rod pictured. He used six to eight 14' rods out the front of his boat. I got a 14' BnM PST rod and Hi-Tek rod holders with the idea of "testing out" Spider Rigging out of my own boat. When I saw that the shorter rods were not going to work as well as the 14' rod, I got two more 14' rods. They ended up being the BnM Capps/Coleman version, which are slightly less stiff than the PST (but not really that noticeable unless using a weight heavier than 1/2oz). Then everyone starts talking about "pushing" their jigs (and eventually cranks), so I hopped on that band wagon and have never really done any Spider Rigging since. But, to be quite honest (as always) I tend to use Pushing as a Plan B, or dead of the Summer technique ... and stick to casting jigs & Road Runners the majority of the time.
I wasn't sure I'd care much for using a 14' rod, but now that I have used them for a couple of years ... I don't really even think about it. They really didn't take as much effort or time to become accustomed to using as I thought they would, but using all three 14' rods (and sometimes a 4th/shorter rod) is quite enough for me to handle.
Well she ain’t the prettiest girl at the dance, but I just built my own spider rig rod holder. Figured since I’m just starting out and I’m on a budget, I’d just build my own. $40 later and a few beers I have the finished product. Attachment 291618Attachment 291619Attachment 291620Attachment 291621
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Just a word of caution : if you intend to pick your rods up out of the holders between the O & U of your brackets, when setting the hook, you might want to consider turning those bolts around or using shorter ones .... otherwise you're possibly going to have some skinned up knuckles.Quote:
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I say that because I fished out of a friends boat, with rod holders of a similar design, and quickly learned that I'd either get my knuckles scratched on the bolt head in the cradle of the holder (if I picked the rod up there) or get my inner wrist poked if I reached over the U forks of the front of the holder. Both places were rubber coated, when new, but the coating had worn away or had been torn off from years of use ... leaving bare metal ends. That was one reason why I opted for Hi-Tek rod holders when I decided to purchase rod holders for my own boat ... and I even replaced the bolt that holds the holders onto the T-bar with knobs (and ran them from under the T-bar, rather than in the cradle of the holder, as shown in the picture below).
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[QUOTE=CrappiePappy;3579335]Just a word of caution : if you intend to pick your rods up out of the holders between the O & U of your brackets, when setting the hook, you might want to consider turning those bolts around or using shorter ones .... otherwise you're possibly going to have some skinned up knuckles.
I say that because I fished out of a friends boat, with rod holders of a similar design, and quickly learned that I'd either get my knuckles scratched on the bolt head in the cradle of the holder (if I picked the rod up there) or get my inner wrist poked if I reached over the U forks of the front of the holder. Both places were rubber coated, when new, but the coating had worn away or had been torn off from years of use ... leaving bare metal ends. That was one reason why I opted for Hi-Tek rod holders when I decided to purchase rod holders for my own boat ... and I even replaced the bolt that holds the holders onto the T-bar with knobs (and ran them from under the T-bar, rather than in the cradle of the holder, as shown in the picture.
Thanks for the heads up! Was already planning on cutting those bolts down and putting rubber caps on them. Thanks for the info.
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