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    Quote Originally Posted by skeetbum View Post
    That's what ran through my mind. I have no problems with pink. I use a heat gun and heat a count of 3 or 4 on each side, hold eye with needlenose pliers and dip. Keep us posted.
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    I can't begin to tell you how many thousands of jigheads we paint in a year and pink used to be our easiest color but the last couple of orders of pink we have gotten in has been a bit more tempremental,this my sound silly but we have found if you hold the jighead down close to the wick in the blue flame and hold it there for a second longer than you normally would the finish comes ou perfect,hope you work it out.
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    I am surprised your having trouble with pink, never have had nor chart. I would call CSI and ask them to see what is wrong. Maybe one of the suggestions will help, but I have no idea. Have never had that problem with any color actually. I have had some trouble with some colors, but not like this one.

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    I wonder if there is a coating on the Jigs....like a clear to keep them shiny.
    I haven't had this trouble with one other colors.

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    A couple of suggestions:

    1. It looks like you are getting the jig too hot. I can tell because it takes the color off of the hook. I use a toaster oven set at 375 - 400 degrees to heat my jigs when painting many at a time. It’s the only way to go. If I am only doing just a few I use a heat gun on high. It gets the jigs plenty hot enough and does a nice, even heat. The alcohol burner could possibly be the culprit here. I am not sure, I have never used one as a heat source. It may be adding a residue that causes the “Orange Peel” affect.

    2. That affect can be the result of something on the jig, and as I mentioned the alcohol burner might be adding a residue. You can clean your jigs with a 50/50 vinegar to water mix. That will remove oxidation and any other residue that might be on them.

    3. When you dip the jig in the powder paint make sure you swish it back and forth. This is a method that many people don’t do, they just dip it. It helps with the coverage, uses less paint, and helps keep the paint from globbing on top of the jig.

    4. Try using the paint without the fluid bed or turn the fluid bed way down. You might be “over-fluidizing” the powder paint. Yes that is possible.

    5. Finally, if this is the only color you are having trouble with it may just be the paint. Someone else mentioned that there are 2 things you want to avoid, moisture and exposure to heat. Hot pink has always been one of my top sellers and has always been one of the easiest colors to work with so it is possible that the paint is the issue, most probable cause being moisture.

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    Thanks for the suggestions...

    I just painted some last night (1/16 oz) and had some of the same problems..not so bad but a little. I tried heating them less and then the paint doesn't stick and heated them more and the worked a little better.....I painted different colors and the pink is the only one that did this..


    I do have a hot air gun that I am going to try next batch I paint....and I will turn the air down a little. I never knew that would be possible to over do the air.

    I'm just wondering.....

    Don't the jigs cool down on the trip from the oven to the fluid bed ?




    Sorry for the long drawn out thread and the novice experience....I'm trying to learn.

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    I use a alcohol burner with denatured alcohol. I have not had that problem with the hot pink. I do use ProTec, Jann's, and Harbor Freight powder paints. I don't use a fluid bed. I do keep the jar powder paint stirred after every few heads. I hold the head by the eye and directly in the flame for a 7-10 count, depending on size head, while rolling it from one side of the head to the other. I do swish the head back in forth quickly in the upper level of the paint trying to not stick the head in past the bottom of the head. Another thing you may want to try is to only heat the head for a 4-5 count. Then swish the head in the paint. Return the head ABOVE the flame (just close enough you will see the paint turn glossy) rolling the head to get even heat. The other trick I have learned is to point the top of the head up when returning the head over the heat. This will allow any excess paint to drip down the head. This has helped me avoid drips when baking them. I know some of this has already been mentioned, but just some more things to try. Could very well be just a bad batch of paint and nothing wrong with what you have already been doing.
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    I think they got too hot...I use a propane flame for mine 1/16th 3 seconds 1/24th 2 seconds but not in direct blue flame...one one thousand two one thousand..lol when this happens to me its I got the head too hot!
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    I have an alcohol burner I use mainly. I heat it for about 3 seconds and then slowly dip into fluid bed. I was getting the "orange peel" effect until I because very methodical in doing the dipping. I also mixed in a healthy dose of clear. 3 seconds in my alcohol burning gets the jig head shiny.

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    I am telling you guys that you are missing out. Get rid of the torches, candles, and alcohol burners and get yourself a toaster oven. I guarentee you will not regret it. Load them all in a toaster oven and you can pull them out and paint them one right after another. Mike, you may lose a little heat from the oven to the powder but not enough to affect it. Mine are set up right next to each other. If you notice that the paint is not glossing over immediately after swishing in the paint then turn the oven up hotter. Lead doesn't melt until 621 degrees so no real chance of melting the lead off. I usually keep mine at about 400 degrees and that allows for a little heat loss, mostly from opening and closing the door. The oven produces a very "even" heat on every jig, will save you 5-10 seconds a jig, and it will only cost pennies in electricity rather than the $ to use alcohol or torch. You can find toaster ovens at almost any garage sale and or on E-Bay (I got a really nice one for $30 on E-Bay. Probably more elaborate than needed but I demo this process at fishing shows with it so I wanted a nice one). And... bonus... when you are done painting them you can load them back up to cure them and the wife won't get mad for using her oven to cure jigs. By the way. I strongly recommend curing them.

    Here is my process:
    1. Load the jigs in the toaster oven on the racks, turn it on to 400 degrees.
    2. While that is heating I get the paint colors in the fluid bed situated. Depending on size, normally only takes about 5-6 minutes before you can start yanking them and painting.
    3. Take from oven, dip it in fluid bed for base coat, add any head or belly colors (applied with craft paint brush), hang it on a rack (similar to the one pictured above)
    4. repeat until they are all painted
    5. load oven racks back up with painted jigs
    6. Set oven to 350 degrees and set oven timer for 20 minutes and go in the house.

    Easy and efficient!

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