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    Looking to cast the incredible Panfish Magnet with a UL rod and a reel. First off, I weighed a Panfish Magnet head with the body on and it tipped the scale at .031 oz. Some quick math tells me that is 1/32 oz.

    I have the following rods available:
    Temple Fork Outfitters Panfish UL, 7', Fast, with a Diawa Legalis 2000
    Temple Fork Outfitters Panfish L,7', Fast, with a Diawa Legalis 2500
    Okuma Celio UL, 7', Fast, with a Diawa Legalis 2000
    Diawa Spinmatic UL, 7' Fast, with a Diawa Legalis 2000
    Diawa Legalis UL, 5'6" Fast, with a Diawa Legalis 1000

    As you can see, I like Diawa Legalis reels....

    All of the reels have Berkley 6lb. XL with the exception of the Legalis 1000 which has 4 lb. XL.

    When testing casting distance today against a slight breeze with a 1/32 oz. jig head, I found all the setups to be fairly close in distance. The Okuma Celio was actually the furthest by about 3'. Distances were measured with a measuring tape. I took three cast and my son took three cast with each of the above setups. Between my son and myself, all or our cast were within a foot or two for each setup.

    I am looking to get good casting distance with the Panfish Magnet. I know I need to go to smaller line.
    Do I go to braid? If so, what braid and lb. test? I have used both Suffix 832 and Power Pro in the past on larger setups with good results. Bottom line is, what line should I use? Any help would be appreciated!

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    I like Power Pro slick8 in 2lbs diameter. With the Celio I can sling a jig a good ways.
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    I’ve used Sufix nanobraid, Berkeley Nanofil, and several Japanese braids. One from unitika called night game in 1.5 diameter, which casts and performs very well. No lees than 5 other braids on my reels come from Varivas and I’m pleased with everything about them. I also have some of Varivas nylon line also which performs better and is smaller than any of the domestic that I’ve tried. Some of the domestic li e I’ve tried is Stren crappie in 2 lb, trilene clear 2 lb and Sufix flouroclear. All of them do well for the domestic mono line. There’s probably a few others that I’m not remembering right now. I’ll also say that I fish different than most folks. I’m usually in tight quarters up near the bank pitching into pockets and stumps and between patches of grass and just junk in general. I like the full contact of braid and it’s lack of memory makes casting very easy unless it’s windy. The Nanofil is at the top of the list for castability but it comes with a few negatives also. No abrasion resistance makes it very easy to weaken the line by bumping a branch or rock or such and the line will break a long way from any knots for seemingly no reason. I no longer use it at all. The many braids that I now use from Varivas have greatly improved my opinion of small diameter braid. Some of mine are in .2 size that rates just over 5 lbs and will cast well with a 1/32 jig weight. My favorite jighead comes from a 1/32 mold but is a ball head and actually weighs 1/43 with a number 8 hook. If I can help shorten your learning curve, I’d say to look into Varivas twitchmaster for mono line, the three pound does very well for me and most folks. For the braid I would say the Varivas Master limited super premium PE line in the diameter you choose. I always use a leader of at least 4lb clear mono for abrasion resistance and flourocarbon also gets used. Uni to uni knots do very well for both size and strength. Braid comes with some personality too like wind knots or wrapping the tip. We all get it and just be patient. Reel loops also happen and warrant frequent checking as casts are made. I’ve had bluegill hit my jig that feel like someone just tapped the rod with a stick, and I love that. Hope this helps get you going, there’s lots better casts available than 6 lb mono can deliver.
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    Tough to beat the Legalis reels. Good performance and bang for the buck. A nice 2 lb line should do ya.
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    Casting distance has a lot to do with line and weight of lure .
    Bumping up to a 1/32 jighead plus the TM body and you can get decent distance with some 4# mono or fluorocarbon.
    Otherwise you’ll need to go with two pond test to get any distance out of panfish magnet with its 1/64 jighead.
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    Thanks Skeetbum, I will look into that line!

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    What I have found casting light weights on a UL rod with mono, is when the lure weight gets real light, shorter rods will actually get you more distance. There are very few monos that when left to dangle straight down don't show some form of memory. Some are better than others. This memory creates drag going through the eyelets of the rod. For real light weights, this little bit of drag is a killer for distance. The longer rods have more eyelets and thus more drag. As the weight of the lure is increased, longer rods will outcast the shorter ones. The extra drag of the eyelets is negated by the weight of the lure and extra leverage provided by the length of the rod. I did a lot of testing throwing 1/64 and 1/32 jigs to realize this. Once you get to 1/16 and 1/8 jigs, the longer rods will cast further. It took a lot of testing to finally realize why I was getting the results I was getting. From this testing, it so obvious to see why a thin diameter totally limp braid with no memory will cast further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC View Post
    Tough to beat the Legalis reels. Good performance and bang for the buck. A nice 2 lb line should do ya.
    Bob
    Yeah BobC, I bought one Legalis and ended up with six of them! I also have two Diawa BG reels for my Medium rods. To me the Legalis was a solid compromise between a real high end reel and low end reel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peshtigost View Post
    What I have found casting light weights on a UL rod with mono, is when the lure weight gets real light, shorter rods will actually get you more distance. There are very few monos that when left to dangle straight down don't show some form of memory. Some are better than others. This memory creates drag going through the eyelets of the rod. For real light weights, this little bit of drag is a killer for distance. The longer rods have more eyelets and thus more drag. As the weight of the lure is increased, longer rods will outcast the shorter ones. The extra drag of the eyelets is negated by the weight of the lure and extra leverage provided by the length of the rod. I did a lot of testing throwing 1/64 and 1/32 jigs to realize this. Once you get to 1/16 and 1/8 jigs, the longer rods will cast further. It took a lot of testing to finally realize why I was getting the results I was getting. From this testing, it so obvious to see why a thin diameter totally limp braid with no memory will cast further.
    This is what I have found to be true in the testing I’ve done .
    Seems like ultralight rods in the 5-5’6” range are the best casters with tiny baits .
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    These threads of testing for casting and overall performance have gotten my attention too. My six foot build doesn’t act like I think it should and I’m going to strip the all stainless guides and replace them with Alconite high framed guides. Same sizes basically and I might drop a guide or two, depending on how the line lays out. I have an old Lightning Rod in 5’6” with 4 guides and a tip and it is a casting fool. Nothing I have comes close and the line lay is just plain ugly. Go figure. I’m going to do some cast testing and write down the results before and after I change it up, and I’ll keep you posted.
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