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    Default Musings on a rod for 1/64 oz baits

    Hello, I have been using Trout Magnet 1/64 oz and I need a rod that will cast them farther but provide good performance all around. Can anyone shed light on this? Rod price is all over the map and I don't mind spending if it's worth it, I will buy whatever if it works.

    I bought a high dollar (to me) ultralight rod, the only one in my arsenal, and promptly broke the tip just by casting a glance its way, it seems. That seems a ripoff and the rod is out of production, so, I can't buy another top half. I had it repaired with a full fix but I promptly broke it first time out and each time I broke it, I have no idea how it happened. Way too delicate! The 2nd time, I had a different guy fix it but he just stuck a tip on the end and it doesn't cast worth a hoot.

    Recently, I broke my B 'n' M 8 ft rod bringing it into the house, the screen door slammed on it AS I CAREFULLY CLOSED THE DOOR TO PREVENT THIS VERY THING! (LOL, I thought the rod was fully in the house. Wrong. Dang it!) That rod is in for repair (just a new tip) and I wonder how bad it's going to mess it up, lol. (The door whacked off probably 8 inches of it.)

    This is what I have...

    Shakespeare Micro series MGSP 70 2 UL 7'0" (this is a bargain rod, cheap!)
    Uncle Buck's Crappie Rod Light Action UB50LC 5 ft
    B 'N' M 8 ft Sam Heaton Super Sensitive (broke it in the screen door, being fixed)
    Major Craft, $200+ (the one I broke twice), shortened due a break, new tip
    2 fly rods

    I also thought I would ask... I have also used a flyrod and I find that the whipping action (I assume) causes the plastic to tear on the Trout Magnet. Do any of you super glue it and does it hold? What is your super glue process? Do you have a favorite glue? Richard Gene on youtube wraps dental floss around the hook, then super glues his plastic bait; I might try that. I wonder if Mend It glue is any better than super glue.

    I'll end with another question, lol. I watched a Trout Magnet home office video. Their spokesman is really good at what he does, he has a real good delivery. He mentioned having the entire spool of your reel with 2 lb test for the Trout Magnet. What if there is line on the reel, and you take off, say, 100 feet, and tie on 100 ft of 2 lb test to whatever you have remaining on the reel? Once you get the 100 ft of 2 lb test on there, how does the reel know it's not all the same line? Why would you need to have the 2 lb test on the entire reel? I don't get that.

    When I bought that 8 ft Sam Heaton, I recall someone telling me that he casts long casts using very light baits, like 1/64 oz, on it. Maybe I already had a good rod, lol. I don't recall how good it threw light baits, or if I even tried something like a Trout Magnet on it; I only recently got back into panfishing.

    I am thinking I need 7 ft to 9 ft for casting 1/64 oz. Plus, I like to fight fish on a longer rod than a shorter one. Advice appreciated on any of this stuff!
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    The trout magnet mounted on their 1/64oz jig actually weighs 1/32 oz. Lots of rods and lines will cast this very well.

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Crappie.com Fishing mobile app

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    Quote Originally Posted by z520tom View Post
    The trout magnet mounted on their 1/64oz jig actually weighs 1/32 oz. Lots of rods and lines will cast this very well.

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Crappie.com Fishing mobile app
    I am glad you mentioned that; I have been considering weighing that on my fancy kitchen scale out of curiosity!

    I would like to cast farther. Yesterday, I was fishing a bream bed where I needed to get about ten feet or so past my max cast! Anchored down, lots of wind, didn't want to move the boat, lol! I actually put the smallest little beetle spin grub that I had on there, as I thought it looked like it would weigh a little more. Plus, the plastic seems tougher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z520tom View Post
    The trout magnet mounted on their 1/64oz jig actually weighs 1/32 oz. Lots of rods and lines will cast this very well.

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    FWIW... I weighed the trout magnet on my Chefmate kitchen scale that does small measurements. To get a good reading, I weighed a couple dozen of them and then divided by 24 to get the average weight and per rigged trout magnet, it is 1/40 oz. (Splittin' hairs, it's actually 21/800 oz.) That's what I came up with, hope I did it correctly, think I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by livemusic View Post
    FWIW... I weighed the trout magnet on my Chefmate kitchen scale that does small measurements. To get a good reading, I weighed a couple dozen of them and then divided by 24 to get the average weight and per rigged trout magnet, it is 1/40 oz. (Splittin' hairs, it's actually 21/800 oz.) That's what I came up with, hope I did it correctly, think I did.
    I rig mine tandem, so it doubles the weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techno2000 View Post
    I rig mine tandem, so it doubles the weight.
    That is a great idea! How do you tie the two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by livemusic View Post
    That is a great idea! How do you tie the two?
    Thread two jigs on your line. Next tie a Surgeon's Loop with the bottom jig. Next slide the second jig up about a foot on your line and tie a 1-1/2 inch Surgeon's Loop with the second jig.

    If you want to make up bunch of tandem leaders ahead of time (I like 8 Lb. Fluro because it's stiff) just tie another loop above the top jig. Now you can attached your tandem leaders to your main line with the top loop to a snap swivel .

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    Quote Originally Posted by livemusic View Post
    I also thought I would ask... I have also used a flyrod and I find that the whipping action (I assume) causes the plastic to tear on the Trout Magnet. Do any of you super glue it and does it hold?
    I'm sure it would. Another option is to not use a jig head. Just use a hook and pinch on a small split shot next to the hook eye.

    Another option: small marabou jigs cast fine on a fly rod.

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    The TCB rod sold by BnM will handle small baits well and is not that expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathb4disco View Post
    The TCB rod sold by BnM will handle small baits well and is not that expensive.
    I second this. Good rod that casts small jigs well. FYI I use only 2lb line on this rod.

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