Modern Day Piracy

[Bluegilll]

Put Americans to work and arm all of the ships that go there, period. When they have enough of their pirate boats sitting at the bottom they will leave our ships alone.

As for our hostage, last I head they have not given confirmation that he is alive in 30+ hours. They are high seas terrorists and need to be dealt with as such. If they are on the water and attack, we sink them. If they take an American hostage to the mainland we go in and get them. Negotiating will only make them more brazen and more ships will fall as they get faster ships and more weapons.

My tv is sayin he tried to escape around midnite our time in the usa.
He has been seen walkin outside of the life boat since they recaptured him is what the news is reporting.
It hasnt even been 30 hrs since he tried to escape.

[fish_4_all]

Well I can't help it if I watched a bad report.

[KWB]

Egypt' under Nassar leadership, pulled some pirating stunts in the Suez Canal in 1959. The Jews took care of it. If the thugs pirate the wrong ship, they will be dealt with. The world is full of wuzz leaders. They all smoke from the same bong.

Some American leaders need to go to Israel and take some "how to" lessons.

You got that right!

[big "E"]

From what I have seen, you dont need a cruise missile to take out these boats. Looks like they use small fishing boats to come up along side the ship and climb on board. It's not like they have an organized fleet or something. It's the same as terrorists, they dont wear uniforms and they dont fly flags. I dont see why every damn one of these ships isn't armed to the teeth with security guys (blackwater lost their Iraq contracts, this should be a good gig for them) and just blow holes in everything that comes within shooting distance. Or just drop heavy things on them when they pull alongside :D The key it seems is keeping them from getting on board. Once they do, they know what to do and are pretty good at it. But until then they are in a bad position from my view point.

[fish_4_all]

But a cruise missile makes a bigger splash.

I have to agree, it has to be cheaper to have hired guns on board than pay the millions in ransom.

[LBM]

One of the thing I heard is that the ship's insurance carriers are one of the reasons the ships aren't now traveling with arms. Things like prohibitive premiums or no insurance coverage at all.

Another thing suggested was that ports didn't what ships entering with arms on board the vessels.

Not a knowledgable source here just things heard.

One would certainly think that with any more incidents occurring that there will be some changes going on where by the pirates can and will be quickly dispatched to be with Ala where a sane and rational world requires them to be.

[LSUguy]

One of the thing I heard is that the ship's insurance carriers are one of the reasons the ships aren't now traveling with arms. Things like prohibitive premiums or no insurance coverage at all.

Another thing suggested was that ports didn't what ships entering with arms on board the vessels.

Not a knowledgable source here just things heard.

One would certainly think that with any more incidents occurring that there will be some changes going on where by the pirates can and will be quickly dispatched to be with Ala where a sane and rational world requires them to be.

These incidents with the pirates have been going on for years since the withdrawl from Somalia... just some incidents get more attention then others like a while back when they seized a ship carrying military equipment... maybe a cruise missle is an overkill idea with these guys, but it'd make one heck of an example. Best case imo, would be to let some blackhawks or cobras patrol some of these International waters where the incidents are high, and let them play target practice.

[LSUguy]

Just saw on MSNBC that Pirates have fired on US sailors... so anyone want to explain why these pirates are still afloat?

[KWB]

If they weren't afloat, then that American Captain would be dead then the Military would have holy hell raised upon them...

[fish_4_all]

If it was the boat he is in that fired on them then they just blew any chance of a ransom. If it was another boat then they should be swimming back to their huts.

I thought we didn't negotiate with terrorists?