lol Catman...my father says you fish more than most so maybe you can take me to school. I've had decent luck on twain in years past, it's just a matter of finding them. I had a blast a few years ago pulling cranks. If you ever see a blue/silver Champion boat running around, stop by and say hello. It used to be Carl Raines (I think that's his name) boat. You may or may not know him. I'd have to look again. I saw his name in the manual.