Crappie Masters lacking in many ways!

**223 CHAMP** · 06-29-2010, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by MO QWACK

I fished my first "big time" Crappie tournament and it was lack luster to say the least.
First the directors were.. well... straight up smart a holes when you asked them something.
2nd for 260 bucks I can’t even get a cool grab bag or a package of tube jigs for free? You would think having Bass Pro and Toyota as a sponsor would have something for the fisherman. I fished allot of local tournaments that had good give a ways.
3rd the seminar should have food and drinks!!!! a water fountain aint going to cut it
4th I had no clue how to weigh in the fish or where to go, no signs, no one telling the new guys how and where to line up. (extra stress on the fish )
5th if you wore a shirt or had a wrapped boat, then it was worth taking your pictures and talking to you.
6th no one was there checking to see if anyone was late to weigh in
7th you stand in line for 45 minutes to weigh after being on the water all day, in the sun and they had no water or anything for us.
If you want money, Crappie Masters might be ok for you but if you want to have fun and feel like you’re in the so called biggest crappie tournament than it was lacking for me. I hope this isn't the future of crappie tounaments. It isnt made for the little guys.

Sorry you had a bad experience, just want to answer a few of your complaints.

1st there was was someone checking to see if anyone was late.
2nd there was 2 big white coolers full of water, and people passing them out.
3rd there was 140 some boats,if you have a better idea for the weigh in, you should let them know, im sure they would be open to new ideas.
4th if you has ask one of your fellow anglers, the would have help you with ideas to keep your fish alive. and how to go about weighing in your fish.
5th they did give stuff away, didnt you have your red tickets at the seminar?
6th the seminar went longer then normal because of a tribute to a lost fisherman, and several other reasons, come on man!
7th the directors are A holes? really? i think most would disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.

**mduncan62** · 06-30-2010, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by 223 CHAMP

Sorry you had a bad experience, just want to answer a few of your complaints.

1st there was was someone checking to see if anyone was late.
2nd there was 2 big white coolers full of water, and people passing them out.
3rd there was 140 some boats,if you have a better idea for the weigh in, you should let them know, im sure they would be open to new ideas.
4th if you has ask one of your fellow anglers, the would have help you with ideas to keep your fish alive. and how to go about weighing in your fish.
5th they did give stuff away, didnt you have your red tickets at the seminar?
6th the seminar went longer then normal because of a tribute to a lost fisherman, and several other reasons, come on man!
7th the directors are A holes? really? i think most would disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.

I'd have to agree with CHAMP on this one.

As far as I know, this was the first time they did they weigh by the number on your entry. I think it worked pretty good. Paul stated several times that if you had stressed fish, they would get you in early.

They spend a lot of time at the seminar talking about keeping your fish alive, and it's every anglers job, in every tournament to do so. Nothing new.

This is the first time they've had guys in the lot to check your fish in when you get to bucksaw to make sure they're alive. That was pretty nice, considering the heat.

Who needs free dinner, when they've got El Camino Real just down the street. Steak Jalisco and shrimp is what every angle needs the night before.
:D

That was a ton of teams in that thing, I thought it was very smooth considering the amount of teams, heat, etc.

**bugman** · 06-30-2010, 05:50 AM

I know these (directors) personally and the one thing they're not is a-holes,they and cm have done alot to promote the sport of crappie fishin but when they have a tournament of this size they can't be expected to chit chat with everyone that comes across the stage or pass out water in a weigh in line.........it's just not possible to please some folks.

**olesilverside** · 06-30-2010, 06:51 AM

pass out bottles of water while we were standing in line, got myself one and then had to go get another one..... there were two big coolers full of water right by the line......

and I don't use his rods......

**MO QWACK** · 06-30-2010, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by 223 CHAMP

Sorry you had a bad experience, just want to answer a few of your complaints.

1st there was was someone checking to see if anyone was late.
2nd there was 2 big white coolers full of water, and people passing them out.
3rd there was 140 some boats,if you have a better idea for the weigh in, you should let them know, im sure they would be open to new ideas.
4th if you has ask one of your fellow anglers, the would have help you with ideas to keep your fish alive. and how to go about weighing in your fish.
5th they did give stuff away, didnt you have your red tickets at the seminar?
6th the seminar went longer then normal because of a tribute to a lost fisherman, and several other reasons, come on man!
7th the directors are A holes? really? i think most would disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Well, first our 7 fish were good and alive but ALOT of fish were not after standing in line. You shouldnt have to know where the secret ice chest with water is. Signs will work just fine. The one director was a jerk. My dad ask him simple questions and he went out of his way to be a smart azz. I guess that why we stopped asking questions.What was the siminar for???? and Yes the big time tournaments leave in flights 30 minutes apart and have to wiegh in in there block time. I'm not a rookie to high profile fishing and i thought the way Crappie Masters was ran was a joke. Just my 2 cents Oh and the red ticket was awesome wow they had some great stuff :rolleyes:

**olesilverside** · 06-30-2010, 08:00 AM

they told us to get there around 5 so we don't get out until 8??? I did like the decidation to a fellow fisherman whom I never had the pleasure of meeting, and I would have thought any high school,boy scouts,etc. could have sold hot dogs and drinks for such a long drawn out semminar..... I will register and leave to get more sleep next time.....

and you are right they should mark the water, I wouldn't want to go poking around in someone's chest.... but I lucked out and saw them getting it out of there......

**Route U** · 06-30-2010, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Braggin Board

Thats my opinion at the ripe age of 70, and I hope you fish for the next 43 years Mr. 27.

So do I Sir, so do I..... :D

**rocket rich** · 06-30-2010, 09:31 AM

Crappie fisherman will go the way of the Bass guys. It takes the fun out of fishing. Too bad but we all knew it would be that way... the saying goes

Money talks bull_ _IT walks

**crappiencali** · 06-30-2010, 10:21 AM

CHAMP and Bugs I agree with you both completely! As for my two cents here it goes. If you have an issue with the way things are ran don't B#*CH and not have some type of solution to make it better. If you have a solution bring it up to them. If they were azz holes to you give me the damn solution and I'll call them myself. As for gifts being handed out. It was a drawing not a give away for the homeless! Some people seem to think that if you fish a tourney you are entitled to free stuff. You paid to fish the tourney that is it! The economy has taken its toll on everyone, even companies! You want some free stuff come by the house and I'll give you a bag of jigs or tubes. As for the lose of fish and how the weigh in is done I do agree that CM's does need to find a more effective way. I haven't fished many large tourneys, but I know that these individuals work their tails off to get the tourneys set up and ran as smoothly as possible. Finally with the water and drink issue! The explained why food wasn't offered at the seminar when it first started. As for the drinks you knew that it was going to be a hot day maybe individuals need to plan a little more accordingly! Plus you were at a marina stop being a tight azz and go buy something!

**kazualobzerver** · 06-30-2010, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by 223 CHAMP

3rd there was 140 some boats,if you have a better idea for the weigh in, you should let them know, im sure they would be open to new ideas.
4th if you has ask one of your fellow anglers, the would have help you with ideas to keep your fish alive. and how to go about weighing in your fish.

Didn't fish the event and wasn't at weigh-in so let's start there for the critics of how I view it from afar.

There is a routine that works as well as possible. 100-400 boat events happen around the country so its not uncharted territory. First, stock tanks of cooled and rejuvied water at the line for people to dip their bags into and to replentish while waiting to go across stage. Secondly, and this is the key, pass out only a predetermined number of weigh in bags and require anglers to use an approved bag to present their fish. For an event of this type 15-20 bags is the limit for example. It will make the line waiting for bags the longer line than the line to weigh in fish. It works and works well, it's not uncharted territory.

There are circumstances here that contributed to issues at this event; (1) people that don't tournament fish on a routine basis and that's great but their boat's livewell system and their own experience may not be tried and proven with managing fish (2) lots of folks caught enough fish to weigh in as well they should, more than might be expected in some cases which causes delays in the whole system (3) whoever was running the release boat made some bad judgment calls on fish to be released or harvested (4) for an event of this high risk nature some one should have the responsibility for patrolling the area late the evening of the event and even the next morning.

Don't know the directors or any of the folks conducting this series, am sure they work hard to provide an event. If you haven't ever worked or organized a tournament don't take their jobs lightly, it's a very difficult undertaking. But the image that a series leaves both with participating anglers and the general public is important to the sport of competitive angling and also to present and potential sponsors of competitive angling. Things like this don't help when to me the biggest shortfall of all seems to be that a lot of it was preventable. This type problem and perceived image led to a once popular bass series being barred from having events in one state to our west and eventually to it's fall from grace and status. Don't need that either.

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