Should guides keep their own limit? Yes or No?

**Snubby** · 06-09-2022, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by rojoguio

I'm sure I don't have the facts straight but didn't The Corps add a supposedly sterile bred Crappie to Sardis, Granada, and Enid Lakes to reduce the populations? Seems after that the fish populations in said lakes took a hit they never recovered from. We catch "Wild" Crappie, nothing is dumped into the rivers on the coast but Bass. Our Spawns have been pounded the last six years along with the lack of successful bait hatches to hurt our populations. I have seen crappie migrating in the river, several thousand in the schools, 1ft under the surface, mostly shorts followed by Gar at the back of the school feeding off the stragglers. The fish in front seem oblivious to the carnage at the back of the school. It's been 6 years since those conditions but also 3-5 named storms hitting the coast each season causing the problem. The coastal rain average is 60-65 inches, we received 120+ inches of rain last year. Mississippi Sound was fresh water for most of the time.

False, only Enid lake has had the re introduction of new crappie of all the big 4. Due to a fish kill off year's ago. And they were not hybrids to my knowledge. All the other 3 are as pure as summer rain on genetics. And Enid still raises some good fish!

**Rojo** · 06-09-2022, 03:03 PM

I found the article I was thinking about and it lists the lakes. The article is from 2012, 10 years ago and the fish are bred in North MS but for small impoundments.

Magnolia triploid hybrid crappie

**Rojo** · 06-09-2022, 03:03 PM

I found the article I was thinking about and it lists the lakes. The article is from 2012, 10 years ago and the fish are bred in North MS but for small impoundments.

Magnolia triploid hybrid crappie

**Rojo** · 06-09-2022, 03:07 PM

Here is a post on this site from 2005 or so.

https://www.crappie.com/crappie/main-crappie-fishing-forum/11620-yall-talked-triploid-crappie/

**Rojo** · 06-09-2022, 03:11 PM

Anyone can fish everyday, I fished 5 days this week myself. Guides get good at fishing but it seems this question should be answered by the guide's client. If your on the water, properly licensed, you can fish. Seems if the guide checks the boxes the guide can fish too.

**Dodgeman** · 06-09-2022, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Snubby

To answer your original question. Yes they should be able to keep their limit for the client if they actually catch them. Brings along another question. Should guides fish with a client? I guess it's acceptable after client's limits are met in my opinion. They can gift those fish after that if they choose to whom ever.

Yes, all guides should be required to pay for special license as well as pay taxes on the income earned. My business pays them each year even though I may not agree where that money goes. Plus they should have to have captain licenses as well as all insurance (liability etc.) on hand. A business should be ran as such, with professionalism and standards. To many Johnny come yokels around. Some ain't even yokel... Lol

Agreed Snubby but you know as well as I do the guide isn't catching fish, he is letting the clients catch more fish on his limit. And I also agree they need a guide license and pay taxes.
Not trying to hate on guides most are good guys, but as it has been said they should set the bar.

**Snubby** · 06-09-2022, 05:57 PM

All this is trivial my friend. Best thing to realize is life is short. Pick your battles. I can say the biggest advice I was ever given was "some things you just can't fix" the other "if your gonna be dumb you better be tough". I trust our biologist as much as one can a guberment employee. But in the end I realize complaints get nowhere without merit or statistical evidence.

**M R Dux** · 06-10-2022, 04:37 PM

At the lakes I guide on in Ky , I have to have a fishing license, a Ky guide license, and a US Coast Guard OUPV Captains license. I can’t contribute to my clients’ creel and the rare times I might make a few casts is when I’m scouting bluegill/Redear beds. I don’t fish Livescope with clients. My job is to put my clients on fish and train them how to catch them. Whatever other guides do is their business.

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**tcounty** · 06-12-2022, 07:17 AM

I’ve taken customers on several guided trips. From Kentucky Lake to Louisiana red fishing. I’ve never had a guide catch or keep his limit. In other words , if the limit was 15 a person and there were two of us paying, we fished until we caught 30 or time was up. I’ve never been allowed to catch the guides limit. I like it that way. From a guides point of view I’d think they would want it that way. If his 15 were kept every day, that’s 15 he can’t catch tomorrow.

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**Eagle 1** · 06-12-2022, 09:04 AM

Is it legal to guide on C.O.E. lakes ? Have a license ? Pay Federal Taxes ? If Yes to all three questions then law abiding guides should be able to do with their 10/15 fish as I do with my 15 . jmo.

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