Thread: Does MD need a tidal crappie fishery management plan

Originally Posted by fishercat

I think some regulation may be needed; however, perhaps dnr should do a sampling or a study of some sort instead of just asking people. I believe that imperial data is needed before we even consider regulation of crappie in tidal waters. I am a law abiding citizen and I do not like the government regulating my fishing rights unless it is absolutely necessary.

This is how all the Bull$hit arguments start over on that "Tidal-Fish" website. People presenting their "opinons" as facts.

I can assure you that if many more of those poster come to this site and join in I will shortly be gone from here.

Maybe somebody could suggest how to raise funds to do these studies and such. Perhaps we could do so by raising taxes on gas, boat registration, water/sewer usage, electric bills, auto registration, personal income...., oh wait, they want/have done that to help us in other ways.

Seems to all be part of the "AGENDA".

Again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Originally Posted by ProGrizz

Seems to all be part of the "AGENDA".

Again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Grizz - exactly what I'm thinking.

1) Fishery Director comes on here telling us that an SFAC member recommends he make it a PRIORITY to develop a crappie management plan.

Why?

Because

Originally Posted by toconnell

The issue was raised by MD CCA because of concern that populations in some areas have declined, and they recall a higher quality recreational fishery historically. Some have questioned whether commercial harvest of tidal crappie in some areas have impacted populations.

Then the CCA member registers the same day and comes on here.....

Originally Posted by Dave Sikorski

A few CCA members wondered whether better management for Crappie might yield similar results as the YP. The members that pushed the most were both commercial and recreational anglers. Proper management will maximize the value of Crappie in MD and hopefully provide for the best use of the public resource.

Commercial crappie anglers? Can we get some of those names? I'd like to talk with them.

Who are these anglers who have "become concerned that populations in some areas are declining? Are they members here? I'd like to talk with them also. Maybe my area is different but my crappie success has increased 10 fold over the past 10 years.

I've been after 'em for 40+ years on the Maryland side of the Potomac. I have seen them become way more plentiful upstream (closer to D.C.) due to the vegatation coming back. When the dreaded hydrilla first was "accidently introduced", it helped clean up the water and allowed the milfoil and pads to get a foothold again. Thus the fishin' got better up that way, but further down stream has maintained steady populations. While some areas seem to produce yearly while other areas seem to run in a 2 to 3 year cycle.

I get concerned about managing a resource, especially when I asked about non-tidal bass in the 3 public lakes in So. Md. and why all three have different regs. One is catch & release only, the second is one bass under 11" and the third has a five fish limit, with a slot of 11" to 15" of non-keep and only one over 15". I was told that the third lake had way too many small bass and DNR wanted people to harvest 'em. I asked why not open the season for the small bass in the spring when most people (general public) fish and can catch them easily and let them keep the 5 runts to help eliminate the "too small" over population. The answer was.... yeah wait for it...

"That would confuse the NRP".

Go figure.

Keep it coming, I'm enjoying the responses here.

Given the size and diversity in MD I'm sure the fishery is different from one end of the state to the other.

Thanks for helping with the "agenda"

-D

Originally Posted by ProGrizz

Seems to all be part of the "AGENDA".

Look what I find on the Website Blog of another "CCA" member. Read and see if you think the CCA is "For the Fish", or "against Commercial fishing".

This guy thinks there are Commercial Crappie fisherman on here.......

Shawn says:
February 21, 2012 at 3:16 pm

As you probably know, Dave Sikorski brought up the lack of a crappie management plan about a year ago to the Sports Fish Advisory Commission. I just noticed today that DNR Fisheries Director Tom O’Connoll has initiated and participated in some discussion on the Maryland board at Crappie.com - America's Crappie Community. There are several guys on that board with commercial interests, so I’m not sure he’ll get the best feedback, but at least DNR is interested in coming up with a FMP.

Originally Posted by Dave Sikorski

Thanks for helping with the "agenda"

-D

Just google CCA and commercial fishing if you don't think there is an "agenda" here, or any other "fishing" state.

CCA Misleads with Game Fish "Briefing Document"

http://gulffishermen.org/ResponseToCCA.pdf

4/18 Follow-up FACTS to the post above.The CCA Symbol Exposed

Editorial on Coastaal Conservation Association