Moose, I was only kidding about the water temps. Geez, get your panties out of a wad. I saw temps anywhere from 57 to 61 degrees. The weather was either sunny or windy with rain the whole time I was there, so lots of weather variation. Uh no, I don't think I made Richard mad at me, didn't know that was even mentioned. But thanks for putting that in a post though for everyone to read. Tell you what will piss Richard off though, taking a brand new rod and "fixing" it with JB Weld. I got in touch with him. He is running a tourney in LaGrange Georgia this weekend and didn't have good cell service. Take care and thanks on the congrats on the trip. Life is short Moose, gonna have to live today because tomorrow or one of these days may never come. Take care . Big J