Peanut Oil

[Barnacle Bill]

I tried fixin fish in peanut oil and didn't like it. Give me my crisco or plain ole lard. Now excuse me while I go take my heart meds.

[FishCrazy]

Well my wife cooks fillets in canola oil and just uses enough to cook the side thats in the pan instead of floating them in oil and it works great. Just make sure its hot. We also recently started making blackened crappie and let me tell you what... YUMMMMMMM!!! You gotta try it. Dont take much oil either.

[DC Crappie Kid]

Ditto FishCrazy! In cast iron on the stove. Just a tiny bit of oil in the bottom of the pan. Doesn't matter what oil you use if you season them right. I like Creole seasoning before the corn meal. That's slap-your-mama-good!

[sticksteer]

Hvae you ever had friends turn down fried fillets? Just tell your buddies you will cook them some fish if they bring the oil, you'll have more oil than Sams club.

[joejv4]

sticksteer is on to something here! Back when I was a youngster in the Navy, we used to do same kinda thing with the boxing pay-per-view on TV. All your buddies chip in a couple bucks, and bring some chips, soda, pizza or whatever, and everybody enjoys the fight and nobody has to come up with the 40 bucks to give the cable company. Most anyone has in it is maybe 5 bucks.

Everyone brings a quart of peanut oil and a dish to pass - you got yourself a fish fry and oil for the next one too!!! I LIKE IT!

[danny]

Hey fellows been frying fish all my life got a recipe off this forum the other day and tried it got to tell you it was pretty darn good. take you fillets put some blackend seasons and bake them you will change your mind about frying all the time.

[joewildlife]

Man, I appreciate your taking the time to post as you did. I took the liberty of emailing your post to some of my co-workers...you see, I am a lowly state government employee, wildilfe biologist, and me and my coworkers are very involved in farm bill policy making.

My best fishing buddy is a farmer, and a crappie fisherman to boot. He has taught me about everything I know.

He too used to work for the government, NRCS. He and I were instrumental in getting millions of CSP money in the hands of farmers. It was not usual for us to manage to pay $600 per acre per year to take land out of production and give it to the wildlife. in the least it was $300. I'm proud that we could give the farmer that kind of money, and get great wildlife habitat to boot. In southeast Missouri, the Delta, folks are getting bird dogs again, the quail are coming back big time. I'm glad that I'm helping the farmer's bottom line too. the land coming out of production is marginal, not the good ground. Next to fencelines and woods, too wet, too dry, etc. Those guys were losing money on that ground with high input costs. My buddy's best quote is "It don't matter if beans are $14 a bushel. $14 a bushel of nothing is still nothing".

Best wishes and I hope you are making hay while the sun shines, so to speak.

Joe

[crappiefarmer]

Man, I appreciate your taking the time to post as you did. I took the liberty of emailing your post to some of my co-workers...you see, I am a lowly state government employee, wildilfe biologist, and me and my coworkers are very involved in farm bill policy making.

My best fishing buddy is a farmer, and a crappie fisherman to boot. He has taught me about everything I know.

He too used to work for the government, NRCS. He and I were instrumental in getting millions of CSP money in the hands of farmers. It was not usual for us to manage to pay $600 per acre per year to take land out of production and give it to the wildlife. in the least it was $300. I'm proud that we could give the farmer that kind of money, and get great wildlife habitat to boot. In southeast Missouri, the Delta, folks are getting bird dogs again, the quail are coming back big time. I'm glad that I'm helping the farmer's bottom line too. the land coming out of production is marginal, not the good ground. Next to fencelines and woods, too wet, too dry, etc. Those guys were losing money on that ground with high input costs. My buddy's best quote is "It don't matter if beans are $14 a bushel. $14 a bushel of nothing is still nothing".

Best wishes and I hope you are making hay while the sun shines, so to speak.

Joe

JoeWildlife,

I appreciate the kind words and I hope your co-workers enjoy the post. You boys are in a heck of a fight right now with the Cattle associations, Meat packers and oil companies trying to pressure USDA to open conservation land back up to crop production. That could be detrimental to wildlife such as quail and pheasants, rabbits and the rest of the array of animals that use conservation land.
Most of that land is marginal and with fertilizer prices so high, I would not gamble that kind of money on something I don't know is going to give me at least break even return. So really the land is being better utilized through conservation. Also some of these areas are used as breakwaters to keep fertilizer from reaching rivers. Some people will say that the government is paying farmers not to farm. The whole reason is to keep every inch of land from going into production so we can keep habitat and prevent further declines in all the animals that are dependent on it from going into further decline. If the conservation program is lost so will 10 to 14 million acres of wildlife habitat that will be put back into crop production. Not because the farmer wants to but because he has to. He is paying taxes or rent on that land and it will have to produce if it is not rented from him by the government.
We have land that could be eligible for conservation payments but there is not enough money allocated for us. It has all been used up already. It is good land however and with the price of fertilizer now, We take soil samples and put out only what fertilizer is needed for the crop. It is too expensive to be excessive so very little gets to the rivers. I think most of the water pollution in the rivers now that are being blamed on farmers are coming from the big cities on those rivers that are continuously dumping crap in the water. especially that treated waste water that they say is safe to drink. I know it is high in nitrogen and as far as I'm concerned, they can drink the first glass.

Some acres are going to be put back into production slowly as contracts expire but as soon as crop prices ease and profit potential is lost to marginal acres again, then there will be large reenlistments. Prices will ease for end users anyway. I don't know if they will pass that on to consumers. They usually don't. Will just keep it on a higher plateau.

All I know is that everything is out of balance right now; crop prices to my benefit, detriment to cattle producers, Ethanol plants. But the pendulum will swing back the other way like it always has and probably hang up on the other side for a long time like it usually seems to do. Everyone will be happier that prices have eased a bit but still 50 percent higher than a year ago as the water gets heated up a little more on that frog in the pot of water. As for farmers, well We will be back to getting nothing for our crop and will be dependent once again on the government to bail us out. With the Farm bill that is in the works, I'm afraid that the safety net will hit the floor before we get stopped. that is scary to think about when the actual real numbers of real farmers is about 300,000. The rest are part time farmers or wall street types that hobby farm. 300,000 feeding 300 million here and then billions abroad. We are a endangered species too that needs to be protected. just go ask some cat at the NY times to come down and grow some corn or beans. Tell him that he can get payed the same as his current job, just grow the corn. He can't do it, not at the level that is needed to take care of everyone.

There are a lot of people that stand to lose from Ethanol and biodiesel. We are hearing from those people right now. Big oil companies are saying that Ethanol is way too expensive to produce, Well the cost of oil production is going up everyday right now too. the Ethanol production cost will go down over time because the technologies to refine it will get better. They are just in their infancy right now. right now we are making corn liquor but will soon be making liquor from grass and stalks and wood chips and then that cost will come down and will become very competitive with oil production cost. Our "Gasoline" will burn cleaner because it burns hotter and supply gets renewed every year. We are just on the cusp of high volume production. big oil does not want that to happen and the more of a threat biofuels become to them, the louder the false claims will become. although Ethanol does not work good in older motors, they will eventually be replaced with ones that can burn ethanol. That includes boat motors too. For the ones that are scarred of it...don't use it if your scarred of it, I wouldn't run it in my boat but will run B2 biodiesel in my pick up truck and as the new fuel blends start to prove themselves, I will switch over.

I will get off my long winded stump now. CF

[joewildlife]

CF, about using ethanol in boat motors...

In MO, we don't have a choice. They passed a law requiring 10% ethanol unless the ethanol price is actually higher than straight gas. Turns out, MO doesn't even have labelling requirements for gasoline and we have unknowingly been getting ethanol blends for over a year. The Casey's and MFA (Missouri Farmers Association) chains have been selling the exact same gas, at the same price, pumped through each of two pumps, one marked 87 and one marked 10% ethanol 89 octane. Same gas in both!

So I guess my Yammy will burn the stuff. Not real happy about it. I'm gonna fill up in IL or elsewhere whenever possible, that is if they use straight gas. In my vehicles, I couldn't care either way. But E85 reduces by gas mileage in my work truck by about 17%, and it is 17% less expensive. Funny how it works out that it is a wash.

Joe

[bigfish5]

try melting butter dipping them in the melted butter. sprinkling them with pilaterri's bold and spicy seasoning and searing them on both sides in a cast iron skillet. mmmmmm good