I tried 30 different colored hand ties, even the gray ghost. No dice...after watching another couple catch two limits on minnows and I hadn't even got a nibble, I switched to minnows. Momma said bring home some fish. I later found out a couple years ago, I hadn't been to this lake in a long time, came under new management and they sprayed something in the water to kill the weeds. Since then the fish don't want anything but natural baits. Don't know.