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    Quote Originally Posted by Grainraiser View Post
    I have been chasing crappie for 50 years. I started with a Zebco 202 and invented my version of the original jigging pole (10ft cane pole with reel and eyes fashioned from a wire coat hanger and attached to the pole with electrical tape). No one needs Livescope, but challenge anyone to see it used in person and say they don't want it. I watched in action and I learned more about crappie behavior in 4 hours than the 50 years I have been chasing them. We have been taught that crappie feed up. They will dive bomb a jig in a country second. I have also found out that crappie will suspend at 15 inches in 20 foot of water. Get a boat anywhere close to them and they will run for the hills. I have seen then ignore any jig you drop to them but attack fluttering spoon like it killed it's children. I'm currently in the market for a boat but as soon as get it the livescope will be my next purchase. Sure I can catch fish without it but having one takes crappie fishing to a whole different level. It's not gonna make fish jump in the boat but you can certainly move on from inactive fish. It don't have to have A/C in my truck when it's 100 degrees outside but once you see how great it is to have it you will never go back to rolling down your windows.
    All facts!!! The education alone is worth the expense. Well said!.

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    Well said Grainraiser, I like the AC part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggin john View Post
    I can’t get over the trash talk and almost hateful comments ?? I thought we were all about catching and having fun fishing for crappie?? I feel what ever a guy wants to fish with is fine it’s his choice no one is forcing their way on anyone. I don’t see these comments on this site when someone buys a high end boat, rod or other gear.... just seems Livescope is a sore spot with some. I tell ya I’m happy for anyone that gets new gear rods, reels, boats and livescope... it’s all about being happy....
    I agree. There are some real sour attitudes from some people regarding Livescope. I don’t understand it. I don’t look down on people who have things I don’t, or don’t have things that I do. I guess I expect people to treat me the way I treat others but that’s not reality. Some of the people on this thread are just plain snobbish. Don’t look down on me because life didn’t work out like you wanted it to.
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    I hate everybody that has live scope, however if I'm on your boat and you have livescope I will probably love the heck out of you. Hopefully 2020 will be a great year for fishing!

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    Boy! Has this thread got some folks dander up or what? I think as a tournament fisherman, LS is a must have tool, regardless of cost. To me, the few times I've had the honor to fish with it in friends boats, I've learned TONS about crappie behavior and know the value of the technology. This being said, to me the real joy of fishing is the time spent fishing. Don't get me wrong, its a thrill to watch the screen and watch a true slab knock the fire out of your presentation, or not. But in the process, did I miss that rare bald eagle sitting in the top of that tree or the doe and her twin fawns coming down to waters edge for a drink of water?

    The truth of the matter is I enjoy the opportunity to go fish, especially with good friends or just by myself.

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    Here is my take on livescope . It may hurt the big fish populations on some lakes , if too many really learn to use it . I broke down and bought a Garmin 1242xsv and livescope . I always use Humminbird but finally gave in and dropped the cash . Not everyone has the boat skills to use it to the max . You will see more fish on some lakes than you ever dreamed , but still have to catch them . Once you get settings right and can control your boat it is amazing tool . You will pretty much tell what Buffalo , Gar , Drum , Bass , and panfish look like and how big . See if they react to your presentation or scatter from your boat . I have found fishing a spot like a brush pile or stake bed you will save time by seeing where they are in it . See if they spook or just not interested . On some spots there will be several bigguns , catch one and the rest scatter .
    WSD took me and showed me about trying to catch the highest first to reduce chance of spooking them . I went to Wister with him and caught fish under a huge drift where I never would have tried before . You could see a huge school tightly packed under the drift . With livescope we pulled up able to pinpoint depth and distance . I knocked a hole to get my jig in then watched it lower to them . Then it was on . amazing .
    I caught my biggest livescope fish on my home lake this week . When you see a 16'' on screen and toss it a jig . Then see it eat and feel the thump it is crazy . I have always done good most places but feel will catch more bigguns by not wasting time where only dinks . Just hope everyone that fishes a lot will release some of the big ones . I plan on taking some road trips looking for that 3 lb Crappie that is rare on my home lakes . I had one boat dealer trying to sell me his big Humminbirds saying he was not impressed by the new stuff then he goes out and gets one .

    Took a friend on a lake showing him how I do it

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    This is a 16'' I caught on my home lake and released

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    Still in learning stages but I been catching plenty , not sure I would have caught any less without livescope but it seems to help .

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    Trip with WSD ( Robert Robinson ) check out his videos on facebook

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    Another good trip alone with livescope , I am hooked

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    No love/hate conflict for me.

    The HB and Garmin seem to get along, side by side , very well.

    Actually makes for a pretty good team.

    Pretty much feeling the love every time I get a tug from these little guys.


    Bad news is that as more are assimilated, this technology will probably/eventually be devastating to the crappie populations.

    The good news for the crappie is I don't eat fish or keep any fish.












    Resistance is futile you will be assimilated. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tev8514 View Post
    It's not a matter of being able to catch fish. I'd be willing to bet you 99% of the tournament fisherman that have livescope were pretty good fisherman before they bought it. Yet they have it now. It is another tool just like your 2d sonar, DI, SI, crappie nibblets, slab sauce, and spot lock and whatever else you have. The problem some of you have is the price tag on it and justifying spending that kind of money for a tool you don't NEED. You can justify putting that crappie nibblet on your hook because it's cheap and within the budget that you have set for yourself. What your failing to realize is not all of us look at it as s master of NEED. It's a matter of WANT. We wanted it. So we bought it. Is it a cool tool? Heck yes!! Did we HAVE to have it to catch fish. Heck no!!

    The same can be said about boats. Nobody had to have a boat to catch fish but you have one. And if you have one all you need is a canoe or Jon boat but I bet the vast majority of you have something bigger and nicer to fish out of and none of you NEEDED that bigger boat to catch fish. You WANTED it. And we all have different wants and how much we're willing to pay to get them.

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    Well said! And a good point about the boat being the same as livescope. The boat is another tool as well.

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    Sorry WSD is Robert Robinson , check out facebook videos he makes using livescope .

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    I don't hate Livescope, actually think its really cool and probably use it quite a bit tournament fishing this year. But that said I think it is absolutely bad for our fisheries and have mixed emotions about whether its really the way I want to fish or if I even really consider it "fishing". Just my personal concerns and what I wrestle with. Just like I choose to hunt deer with longbows and don't use trail cameras I may end up choosing not to use it in the future.

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