I use the B&M 10' black widows for spider fishing in the lake I fish. It is a lake with mostly 12' and less water and they work good for me. If the fish are high in the water I use corks and the rest of the time I tight line with them. I land some pretty good crappie and catfish with them and they are pretty tough poles. Here is a picture of some fish I caught this morning using them.

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