Vic n ! No problem i can take a joke and ribbing as good as anybody and can rib somebody pretty good myself . But as you can see I'm not by myself on the problem and when you wrote i had just finished trying to do a post that took well over 45 minutes that should have been done in minutes so I was T'ed at the problem and honestly i thought you were suggesting that the problem didn't exist and I was the problem . But all is well and it's forgotten just remember I like to joke so bring it on ! Randy