Also kind of handy to have a ruler on the rod. From the top of the handle toward the tip mark from 10" to 18" . just might keep you from movin around the boat so much to get an idea of what's in your hand. Fly guys use em too. If you were real good with the fine thread used for winding guides, 3 or 4 wraps would do it. Something to do when boredom sets in.