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    Quote Originally Posted by mb4850 View Post
    Neon glad your ok. I've been exclusively kayak fishing for a couple years now and had a couple close calls but haven't hit the water yet except on purpose. I started out using the breathable chest waders and a nice dry top in cold weather, but have evolved to waste high breathable waders and love them. I have some from academy with the stocking feet $70. I also wear proper wader pants with them in weather as low as the 30's all the time and with 2 pair of good non cotton socks do well. Anything cotton shouldn't bee worn in cold weather kayak fishing. Not only get you some good gear but practice dunking yourself this spring fully dressed in it to learn just what happens when you hit the water. I also carry some extra clothes vacuum sealed in bags, just in case I'm too far from home.
    Thanks! I've looked for a close Academy (since I've only been there once, and spent 2 hours just looking around), since I really liked the store, and plan to buy a pair of waist-highs (but none close, or on the way to the next stop). Being new to Kayak fishing this year, I've been on the water enough to feel more than comfortable in it, but this particular Lake I believe is what got me into trouble. That said however, I love it here no less (except the dang wind!) While I have to admit I'm extremely "nervous" about Kayaking here, I'll be more relaxed elsewhere (next stop being Sardis). Still hoping to get the chance at a few more Crappie here, weather permitting (wind more so than rain).

    I never get too far from "home" (camp) simply for the fact I don't have it in me to do so (physically), but if I did, I'd likely do the same, and carry a change of clothes.
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    #1 kayak rule for me. Carry synthetic spare clothing. Fleece bottoms and tops, spare socks, black trash bag x2, in a water proof bag. If I dunk, I head to the nearest bank, not camp. I get out of those wet clothes and into dry. Here's my thought, what if you dunked again due to the injuries or stress of dunk #1 that made you stiff and unbalanced.... dunk #2 as you said would be much harder to recover from if you hadn't "recovered" from #1.

    The black trash bag, worn as a undershirt after getting cold, traps body heat and vapor losses, you warm much quicker and even more so with exercise such as paddling.

    Thanks for posting, good reminder for us all. Prepare for the worse.
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    had never thought of the possiblity of dunk #2 coming from a result of dunk #1. Guess I need to think some more on this cool/cold water yaking. Can't call it cold weather when its 65*, so I'm going with cool/cold water yaking.
    GO BIG ORANGE !

    I meant to behave, but there were just way too many other options available at the time.

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    After an event like the OP went through, if #2 had happened, even in water at that temp, he could very well had been in serious trouble.

    We fish in a different way, Gentlemen. Take different safety precautions.

    I forgot to add, when I would have changed clothes on the bank, I would also have taken time to rest, have a snack, take an ibuprofen (in the tackle box).

    Recover/restore your stamina and state of mind.

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    Fortunately it wasn't colder, I wasn't freezing by any means, and could have paddled easily probably twice the distance back to camp if needed. I was uncomfortable and ready to be warm and dry, sure, but not to a dangerous point. By the time I could have hit the closest land, dried-off, and changed clothes, I'd have already been back at camp and in the warm shower.

    I sure won't forget the experience, and though I can laugh about it now, I'm certainly aware (as others should be) that ANY time you go out of a Kayak is a dangerous situation, regardless of temps, but cooler temps would have to increase those odds.
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    guess I'll have to put my change of clothes in the yak rather than keeping 'em in the truck. Good thing I have some dry bags around here. Learn something every day, some is not very useful, but I do learn something.
    GO BIG ORANGE !

    I meant to behave, but there were just way too many other options available at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcbrown View Post
    After an event like the OP went through, if #2 had happened, even in water at that temp, he could very well had been in serious trouble.

    We fish in a different way, Gentlemen. Take different safety precautions.

    I forgot to add, when I would have changed clothes on the bank, I would also have taken time to rest, have a snack, take an ibuprofen (in the tackle box).

    Recover/restore your stamina and state of mind.

    Don't stop taking chances and living the adventures, but live to tell the stories.
    Very good advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimp View Post
    yeah, I know, payback is %$#@, but it shore is fun.. Get that , "shore".

    Luckily, my home lake is viturally void of esposed stumps and such. Even during winter drawdown, not much additional structure is exposed. There is one area I'm going to explore in the yak after drawdown to see how much is really back there, as its too shallow for the downscan on the boat to show much if anything during full water. About the only additional structure that is exposed during drawdown is some mud bars and submerged islands that I'm already well aware of and are marked well with navi bouys. New water like ReelFoot can be dangerous, and unfortunately for you NM, you were the guinea pig that got dumped by a stump. I'm always cautious when I go to new water, but that certainly does not mean the same thing or worse could not happen to me. Hopefully, all who read this thread learn something and are more careful, and lucky enough to have a good day fishing and not a bad day swimming in cold water. I am glad you're ok, now go buy some good yak fishing clothes.
    jimp, I'm quoting your last post from mreed's thread (since we were kinda leaning it OT).


    Looking back, I'm kinda surprised I didn't spill before I did. I was paddling faster at times, than I was when I evidently caught that stump just right. Which leads me to another thought. I thought with the Future Beach having a concave bottom, it would basically "center" itself over a stump, the lower points of the hull acting as guides. Though I was paddling slowly, I must have run one of those low points right over a stump, tilting me over. Maybe a V style would push itself away from the stump, and be more stable in a similar situation?

    Thoughts anyone?
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    Flat bottom (ie very shallow-v) gets hung up the least. Spilling has to do with outer edges (chines) and your center of gravity. Obviously a softer chine will be more forgiving.

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    Here's my thoughts. You might need to work on being loser in the hips. Most kayaks are only sitting 3-6" in the water. So, a stump that you didn't see would have you high centered by only a few inches. Being loser and working on keeping balanced and using your body mass to lunge or rock the kayak loose should solve such issues without getting wet.

    I kayak the stump fields of Truman here in Missouri. To say there are millions of stumps is still an underestimation. I've been high center, side centered, etc.... keep cool and pump it off.
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