I usually find crappie, this time of year, under the shad schools suspended at 12-15ft in about 30+ ft of water. I usually don't see anything on the fish finder except shad. I drop a jig through the shad school and find fish. Not only crappie. I often will catch bass too. Even occasionally a channel cat. It's open water fishing, on Hillsdale, which has a lot of standing timber