PawPaw; I'm not a master, but I looked on your other post and saw your whip finisher and it's the same kind I use. It works great and lets me make a good jig for about .20 cents and catch just as many fish as the $2 ones people buy. Maybe you and I both are doing something wrong, but HEY if it works then let's keep doing it!!Originally Posted by PawPaw "gene"