Jig head question

[Redman]

Jigtosser: This is the third time I have tried to post to the comment. Each time I was not happy with my responce. Hopefull this time I will. First it sound like you have a unhappy customer one that loses way too many jig and is lementing the lose and price of the jigs. I can understand that. But it sounds as if you have become a bit rash in condeming the ball head, Round head call it what you may jig. Realize that a jig is only a tool to be used to catch a fish. I use a lot of ball head jigs. I also have alot of other styles of jigs some very custom that no one has any like them. And yes the custom ones are used around brushtops, falldowns, and cypress roots with very few that get lost.

Remember that jigs are only a tool. Each has it own place for its particular use. I cast a 1/8 oz ball head with a #6 sickel that I use for vertical jigging in deeper water on the edge of the river channel. Do I use this jig in the 4 foot water next to the cypress islands, NO. Nor do I use it in the middle of the river to longline with. It has one use. Vertical jigging Period. If brushtops are all you fish I can understand. But some of us fish other types of water that have rivers and lakes and me I have both. I have to chase crappies some time up to 15 miles. Some times in the river sometimes in the lake and other times in the small feeder creeks. That is why I don't limit myself to one type of jig head. I would also say that you may be missing out on some dock shooting that can and is very exciting and fun.

In summing this up I will ask you to look at your jigs as tools. Expand the art of jig fishing to other types of structure. Don't limit yourself but expand your horizons. But most of all experiment and have fun. The next state or lake record may be 10 feet away.

All the Best

Redman

[jigtosser]

This thread is going down an avenue I do not want to go down. It may end up offending too many of the people on the forum and that is not my intentions. I merrily asked a simple question and wanted simple answers. I like them, they are easy to mold, I did the test and am changing, they are all that is available to me. But mainly if it was because of tradition. I have been compiling information on tradition and wanted to know if it also was the case in jigs.

[CrappiePappy]

Jigtosser ... sounds like you need to start using/pouring some weedless jigheads !!

If you drag ANY jig across your finger slow enough, you're going to stick yourself. But, if you drag a weedless jighead across your finger, you're less likely to do so.
Now ... not all brush branches are as thick as a man's finger ... so what keeps most any style jighead from "turning over" and hanging onto those smaller branches ?? The only thing I know of, is a weedguard. Doesn't matter if it's a Y-guard, fiber brush, wire post, twisted wires, etc .... as long as it extends back past the hook point.

I've been using ball head jigheads (weedless - Y guard & brush styles) for 10yrs ... I cast 95% of the time ... mostly into brush piles, blowdowns, standing trees, and under docks (with crossbeams, cables, & brushpiles underneath or trees hanging off the side) ... I use 4lb test mono ... and I don't lose many jigs, at all.

I don't know this Mr Livingston ... but, with a downturned hook, you're just looking for trouble IMHO. Not only will you be hanging into everything the jig comes across ... even if you don't, & a fish hits it, it's going to be hooked in the bottom of the mouth. That's where most of the thin membrane is located, and you're far more likely to have that fish get off, than if you hooked it in the upper part of the mouth.

... cp

[jigtosser]

Thank you for the reply. That is the type of answer I am looking for. You gave a different outlook. In the type of fishing is do here an 1/8 oz jig is a giant and the most common is a 1/16 to 1/32. I did the pull teat with a football jig and never did get it to stick me and the reason I do not use it is because they do not make a mold small enough. Mr Livingston wrote the book "Luremaking" and did the research on spinnerbaits in the days when they first started commercially making them. The jig section is full of notes from experiments. In one of the books I did research in uses 3 terms to describe a jig, Gape, Gap and Bite. I do not want to get that going on here as it will start a small war but will be glad to discuss it by PM. I would do a thread on it but after the responses from this one I am afraid disturb too many traditions.

[ACSooner80]

Jigtosser,
Sounds like you have done some research, and I personally am glad that you can stand with that much firmness behind the reason you dont use that type of jig....and maybe that topic could go on and on and on w/ the Pro's and Cons......I dont think you would be disturbing to many traditions....the way I look at it is just like drinkin water, some like tap water, others prefer Wal-mart brand bottled water, and even yet some prefer more pure water........it all in my opinion lies in ones on perception of what works best for them and what does not...That in the grand scheme of it all its what you was raised doin or whats common to your area. Just two cents from a dusty Okie!!

Following in the Master Fishermans steps,
AC

[jigtosser]

Right on and many thanks. Some times I like to disturb peoples traditions. By getting out of the box we learn and grow. My life evolves around research in all of my endeavors and that is why I have the most unique pocket gun holster on the market, that is what pays for all my toys. I started this thread to challenge peoples reason for using what they use and if they know why. The round head jig has one very distinct advantage that no other jig head has and in that one purpose there is no other design that will work as well. NO I will not tell you, RESEARCH it for yourself.

[Redman]

Well all I am not offended and will not and do not want to pick a fight .But how many time have I written IF IT WORKS FOR YOU USE IT AND IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT. Enough said.


The old Indian

Redman

[jusanothajoe]

Right on and many thanks. Some times I like to disturb peoples traditions. By getting out of the box we learn and grow. My life evolves around research in all of my endeavors and that is why I have the most unique pocket gun holster on the market, that is what pays for all my toys. I started this thread to challenge peoples reason for using what they use and if they know why. The round head jig has one very distinct advantage that no other jig head has and in that one purpose there is no other design that will work as well. NO I will not tell you, RESEARCH it for yourself.

GCD ???? is that you ????

[jigtosser]

Nope and if you thought I was him it sounds like some one that I would like to meet.

[droptine]

GCD ???? is that you ????

That's pretty dang funny!