Thread: Cranking and long lining.

I have had a couple of people ask questions about trolling crank baits, pushing, and long lining. Every year I end up posting a few comments as it seems to answer and educate those that are seeking information and so here goes. Also, to make this thread everybody’s, feel free to give your thoughts and comments and even correct my thought process as it’s always a learning experience for me and I am always looking for new techniques on crappie fishing to learn as well. I don’t know it all and no matter how you fish, you always have good days and days you bite the bullet and get skunked also.

Every body of water is different. Every time you fish, weather patterns change the conditions and so does the seasons and time of year your fishing in. Even the time of day can change the fishing conditions. For every lake, I have paper maps, and map cards for my electronics. I use them to find things like structure that may hold fish. Hot Maps is a good paper map. Structure can be anything from weed beds, to creek channels, stump beds, trees, rocks, bridges, building foundations, humps, you name it. Also, maps will give you varied depths you might be looking for.

Rods to pull cranks with, If your starting out, any rodmyou can cast a crankbaits with will work. Any size will work. Any reel will work, but,the line counter reels take all the guess work out of trolling cranks. Trolling has been around forever since a bait was used to fish with. The Mississippi boys put it all together and the best read on cranking is this: http://www.crappie.com/crappie/missi...-cranks-101-a/. I know it’s a long read, but it’s well worth it if you want to learn. About 6-7 yrs ago, I read it bumpiest times and still get the postings on it. But the guys in Mississippi, refined cranking for crappies thru their trial and error and is all there.

I use Arkies, Bandits, and PICOs and have couple 100 of them. I have used a ton of rods and now using Southern Pros. A good line counter reel is a Shakespeare’s to start out with, I like the Okuma DX 15 and 20s as I have a half dozen of each. You can use 10 lb mono, but I like the braid as it’s no stretch, some like the stretch factor tho. I use power pro yellow slick 10lb equal to 4 lb mono in dia. And 20 lb braid which is equal to 6lb mono in dia.

Speed is what works best for you. In the spring, I move slow, 1.2 or 1.3 mph to 1.6 is my fav speed and summer you can speed up to as much as 2.0. I used the Bandit chart attached for my depths to run my crankbaits. Right now as the larger fish haven’t come up to spawn yet, they are deep, so I run my crankbaits about 1 to 3’ off the bottom on structure of stump beds and the edges of Creek channels, humps, etc., and loose a few as they get snagged. Depth is determined by how much line I am letting out. HINT! It’s determined by where the line enters the water, not from the tip of your pole so add the distance from the tip of the pole to where it enters the water to get a good read on the depth the lure is running. Add a foot if using PICOs as they will run a foot deeper than the arkies and bandits. Later in the year after the spawn, in reading my electronics and seeing the depth of the fish, that will determine the depth I am going to run my crankbaits.

If I am pushing crankbaits, I use the the same speeds to push. My favorite pushing speed is 1.4—1.6 mph. I use 3 oz trolling weights, then add 3’ of mono and tie my clasp then attach the crankbaits. I catch as many pushing as I pull, but your going to want to use a more stronger rod with the weight added. Some guys prefer 2 oz weights. Attached is the pushing chart. I fish out of 16’ jon boat so person in the back can long line and I can push in the front if I don’t want to long line. Person in the back will use 7’ rods while I am up front pushing using 10 and 12’ rods. I prefer the 12’s over 14’ or,16’ as that’s my preference to use.

I use Hi Tek rod holders and I also have Creekslicks Rod Transport Rack to transport my rods in. You can find Creekslick in the forum if you do a search or pm me and will get his info for you as well as Hi Tek. There are also other forum supporters that make rod holders and transport racks.

Long Lining jigs — this a very good read on long lining jigs. http://magnoliacrappieclub.com/articles/LongLining.pdf

I also use 3/4 oz weight with 3’ of line attached to bottom of it with jig tied to push jigs off front of boat
moving 0.4 to as much as 1.0 mph with my preferred speed of 0.8 mph.

Starting out, you can use the same rods for cranking as long lining jigs. I have 10’ and 12’ for long lining jigs and use the spinning reels. Some prefer small low profile baitcasters and even zebco reels, so it’s,a matter of preference.

I hope this answers some questions and if not, ask away. Also, others need to add to this as there are so many techniques and diff. equipment that is out there. I use artificial baits only even when I have spider rigged. I don’t spider rig that much as I would rather vertical jig and sometimes also will cast a jig or dip it using 8 and 10’ rods especially in timber at Patoka.

I caught crappie on crankbaits 3 weeks ago in 51 degree water. Read the Mississippi crankbaits 101 and Major Flyboy won a tourney crankin in 40 ish degree water. Crankin is another style of fishing and very productive. If you get hooked on it, it will cost you alittle money to get setup, but about any crankbaits will catch crappie. I started trolling for walleye and lake trout in Canada in 72. Got hooked on salmon when it was hot in the Great Lakes and had a 26’ cuddly cabin Mark Twain setup with down riggers, out riggers, loran c as gps hadn’t been envented yet, Lowrance X 16 paper graphs was the hot depth finder, plainer boards and dips divers also used, and spent about 15 weekends a year chasing salmon and walleyes in the Great Lakes for 8-10 yrs. Trolling can be super productive and is nothing new as it’s been around forever and another way to catch a ton of fish.