Likes Likes:  0
Thanks Thanks:  0
HaHa HaHa:  0
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 21

Thread: 870 express supermag

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    south carolina
    Posts
    79
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default 870 express supermag


    I have a 870 express and it shoots Remington and federal 3 inch steel fine. I bought a box of kent fast steel 3in #4 and the gun jams every shot. I disassembled the gun and cleaned it and it still jams with kent but not the other loads. The action on the gun appears to get blown back just a bit when shooting the kent and the extracter doesn't catch. If I pull the pump back up it will catch and extract the shell. I was curious if any one has had this problem and if so how did you fix it.

    Thanks for any help
    tader
    PUT'UM IN THE BOAT!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    406
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Get a can of Break free spray the inside of the receiver should help. Jim C.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Ky
    Posts
    102
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I have had the same issue in my 870 with kent 3 and a halfs, but it doesn't happen all the time. Kent's are cheap shells. (not price wise....these days nothing is cheap) I had one with a little corrosion on the brass blow out the side one time. Pulled the trigger on a pair of fast moving woodies and the pump kicked back on me and something didn't sound right. Got to looking around the blind and realized I had peppered the blind and the shell had a pretty good hole where the brass meets the plastic. I was glad that I was hunting alone that day. That's the only brand of shell I have ever had this happen with. Having said all of that, I still shoot them. They pattern best and are usually a bit cheaper then other brands.
    Chris

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    I wish on Grenada Lake
    Posts
    783
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Remington's like Remington shells the best is what I have learned over the years.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    513
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I wonder if the brass is expanding after the shot and causing the shell to stick in the chamber for a second or two (until the brass cools down and contracts). The Kent brass may be more prone to swelling if it's thinner than other brands.

    First thing that comes to mind for me would be to polish the chamber on the barrel. I use a 20ga. copper brush wrapped in steel wool (and I apply a small amount of polishing compound) to polish a 12ga. chamber. I put one section of the cleaning rod in a cordless drill and use that to do the polishing. It only takes about 10 minutes and you probably wouldn't have to use a polishing compound to get good results.

    I had a similar problem with dove loads (don't remember brand off hand) in a Remington 1100 and polishing the chamber fixed it. Good luck and I hope you get it figured out. I use a Remington 870 Supermag for all my waterfowl, turkey and deer hunting and they are darned near bulletproof in my opinion.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Missouri
    Posts
    179
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Well it can be several things. One: cleanliness,,... although you said you been there, done that. Now measure a shell before it is shot and then after(let a professional do the firing!) for the length. Make sure you have the right length of ammo for this gun, e.i. 2&3/4", 3", 31/2 inch. OK? What is the length of one of the FIRED shells? The "2 and 3/4 length", i.e.,3", 3 and a half INCH,,... IS measured from the FIRED LENGTH not the UNFIRED LENGTH!*****
    There could be a headspace problem CAUSING the --*extreme high pressure*--!!!. With an unfired round put a piece of masking tape on the back of the round. (over the primer and the base of the round, then chamber it and see if it will close. If it does, then put another piece over the top of that one. It should not take very many pieces of tape until the bolt WON"T close on the round! Measure with calipers the tape and add them up. That will tell you the head space amount,,... as a FIRST TEST WAY to tell or not about headspace. A PROFESSIONAL will have headspace gauges!!! I can not recall the amount of headspace that your paticular gun should have +/-,,...has, but there is a SAFE number and I beg you to find out before YOU fire any more rounds!!! Does any other ammo do this kind of "stuff",,... ( excessive pressure signs)? If not, it's in that ammo! We automatically assume that all ammo is correct in sizes,,...but!!! You are having HIGH PRESSURE SIGNS!!!!!!! This IS DANGEROUS!!!!!! If your gun has headspace problems then it MUST be corrected! What is your gun chambered for? 2and 3/4 or 3" or what? What is the fired length of a round of that ammo. Have a professional do the firing and discuss the length and see what he thinks! CHECK the sides of a fired shell and the brass, are there any cracks anywhere? IF THAT GUN BLOWS IT COULD POSSIBLY TAKE THE SIDE OF YOUR HEAD OFF AND COULD TAKE YOUR BRAIN WITH IT!!! PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!! What you have described is too much headspace and/or too high of pressure! Let me/us know, OK?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Missouri
    Posts
    179
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    OK I just re-read your first post where you said that your gun does NOT hang the shell in the chamber with other ammo and "this stuff" does,,... causing you to pump it hard, back up to the stuck shell,,... to remove it,,... and you have cleaned it. OK. This is in the ammo it's self! Has to be!~ do some checking. Like I said we assume that all ammo is made correctly but in all reality is everything always correctly made? Check those shells! Go over them with a fine tooth comb in and out and if no answer then, turn that ammo over to the police or fire dept to get rid of it and go on and use your gun,,... just not any more with that brand of shells!
    That is dangerous pressure signs,,... with what you wrote! Check with a pro! Retired (25years),,... gun mechanic. Be careful. Good luck!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    KY Lake
    Posts
    1,127
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    The fired hulls on Kents are longer than most others. Several autoloaders won't feed them correctly. I've never had an issue and have shot no telling how many cases of the stuff but I know people who have.

    That being said, for a spell the 870's had chambers that were as rough as a corn cob straight from the factory. Hitting them lightly with a hone smooths them right up.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    south carolina
    Posts
    79
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bytizawn View Post
    OK I just re-read your first post where you said that your gun does NOT hang the shell in the chamber with other ammo and "this stuff" does,,... causing you to pump it hard, back up to the stuck shell,,... to remove it,,... and you have cleaned it. OK. This is in the ammo it's self! Has to be!~ do some checking. Like I said we assume that all ammo is made correctly but in all reality is everything always correctly made? Check those shells! Go over them with a fine tooth comb in and out and if no answer then, turn that ammo over to the police or fire dept to get rid of it and go on and use your gun,,... just not any more with that brand of shells!
    That is dangerous pressure signs,,... with what you wrote! Check with a pro! Retired (25years),,... gun mechanic. Be careful. Good luck!
    bytizawn the gun i chambered for 2 3/4 3 and 3 1/2 inch shells. i have cleaned the gun and decided i would take the extractor out and do a good cleaning on it also and i went and shot the gun this past sunday and shot the kent 3 inch shells and only one jammed out of about 15 shells. i think the spring in the extractor maybe getting weak after years of use. thanks for all your help i will keep it in mind.
    tader
    PUT'UM IN THE BOAT!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Missouri
    Posts
    179
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I realize that the "express" line may not be as smooth as a "regular" old 870, but when it blows back the bolt and comes off the extractors, what would that have to do with a rough chamber? Measure the brass on a fired shell, and see if you are getting some swelling on it's brass, if it even has brass. Not familiar with brand of your ammo but what's up with them being "a little longer" than most shotgun shells?. I suppose it could be a "small chamber, or tight chamber and that could bring excessive pressure signs. The only way to see what the chamber really looks like and what it measures is to get a sulfer cast. At least that's what I used to do for measuring chambers. It may be that the "longer" shells, do not have a long enough forcing cone and or not big enough,,... and the shell is not opening up for a smaller chamber,,... as it should. That could be the reason for the excessive pressure. Am I way off base here? I don't believe so. unless,,...? There must be a reason that the bolt blows back on this pump shotgun. Are you trying to pull it out quickly after it fires,,... or is it that the bolt blows back first upon firing? Let me know,,... if you want to. Good luck anyway. My Machines have answers for their malfunctions.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

BACK TO TOP