Yea there are a lot of haters out ther!? I am a regular on ArcheryTalk.com and a day doesnt go by without a thread about them! I personal have had good luck with the 2 blades. I do have some friends that use the 3 blades and have lost several deer. They shoot 3ds year round and know about shot placement,so We are certain of some failure of the heads. One doe we tracked over half a mile we found next day this year only had about 3 1/2 inches of penatration? The entrance was big but not deep enough. The guy was using a Mathews DXT set at 70lbs and shot was 25 yds broadside! I shot a 9 point other day a little back but went thru entire body and stuck out an inch in the opposite shoulder! Only one that hasnt been a coplete pass through! I will prob use for a while...just like the damage and the tru flight of them!