All I can say is score. Today I purchased used fly gear 1 white R. 8wt rod with white R. reel spooled up with spare spool spooled up and 1 redington 8wt with gold cup reel spooled up and spare spool and another white R. 5wt reel with backing. Cases and rod sock and both rods are 9 footers all for 75 bucks heck of a deal. If your reading Rob thank You very much.