yes that was what I was trying to find out about. Still trying to understand things like tippet vs. plane mono or the tapered leaders vs.??? Like James was talking about earlier in the thread I am looking to get into fly fishing. I fly fished when I was a little boy with things like bluegill poppers and the black foam ants on a fly hook and this was my dads fly rod and tackle I used . I am looking at several styles of combos for smallmouth and bluegill and trout. The combos I was thinking on was 5/6 for gills crappie trout and the combos for wipers, smallmouth, sauger was a 7/8 combo.