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    Quote Originally Posted by rnvinc View Post
    I still haven't been able to find any understand-able definition of the following display properties ...

    899 ...:
    Display Colors Grayscale = 65,000

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    HELIX 7 ...:
    Display Colors Grayscale = 256

    Humminbird | HELIX 7 SI GPS

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    The 899's LCD is a 16 bit display capable of displaying 65,000 unique colors, the Helix 7 LCD is an 8 bit panel only able to display 256 unique colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfw1960 View Post
    The 899's LCD is a 16 bit display capable of displaying 65,000 unique colors, the Helix 7 LCD is an 8 bit panel only able to display 256 unique colors.

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    I understand "unique colors" ... I don't understand what that means in a discernible difference to the human eye ...

    Richer colors? More detail? More contrast between dark and light? Marketing gimmick?

    899 - -480h X 800 = 384,000 total pixels
    HELIX 7 - 480h X 800v = 384,000 total pixels

    What is 16bit vs 8bit when the total pixels is the same ?? (pixels per square inch maybe?) ...

    MFD screens, TV's, phones, computer monitors ...Published display properties are written in Greek to the layman ...

    Even I need layman's terms sometimes ...

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth

    Your monitor can likely only select 256 colors or 32 bit colors now a days.
    The old Win95 days you only had 256 color available when you started a fresh W05 install which looked horrible, then 16 bit was available after the drivers were installed.

    Richer colors,more detail, more contrast between dark and light. No gimmick....
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth

    My point exactly ...

    Every word in that wiki (except the, but, and or) is un-intelligible to the layman ...and what it may possibly mean to the images a user is seeing in a Sonar display ...

    Multi-million pixel smartphone displays = maybe relevant ...

    Low-resolution (relatively) Sonar displays = I highly doubt it's relevance to the human eye ...

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    I guess if you're completely unfamiliar with some of the base level computer terms, it's no help to you.
    You would need to read up on the basic terms used.
    I have been repairing, building & using PCs for a while, so much of it does make sense to me.
    Otherwise unless you can use a PC and shift the displayed colors from 4 - 8 - 16 -32 bit colors, you'll just have to trust that it gives you richer colors,more detail, more contrast between dark and light.
    All in all, a better user experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfw1960 View Post
    I guess if you're completely unfamiliar with some of the base level computer terms, it's no help to you.
    As is with 99% of Sonar display users ...

    Quote Originally Posted by sfw1960 View Post
    unless you can use a PC and shift the displayed colors from 4 - 8 - 16 -32 bit colors
    If we could just use that same key-press sequence on a Sonar display - it might actually be a determining factor in understanding published Sonar display specs for that same 99% of Sonar display users ...
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    Hence the closing term UNCLE...


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    Amazon.com : Humminbird 409850-1 Helix 7 SI GPS/Fishfinder with Side Imaging Sonar : GPS & Navigation
    Amazon.com : Humminbird 409830-1 Helix 7 DI GPS/Fishfinder with Down Imaging Sonar : GPS & Navigation

    Amazon.com : Humminbird Helix 5 SI GPS KVD Combo, Black : Sports & Outdoors
    Amazon.com: Humminbird 409620-1 HELIX 5 DI Fish Finder with Down-Imaging and GPS: GPS & Navigation

    A few options from amazon. The only one with KVD on it that was cheaper is the helix 5/SI. All you get for the extra money typically is the fact it says KVD. Same functions otherwise.They do have the Helix 5 and 7 with gps, without SI or DI. check it out. Amazon.com. Free shipping.
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    Guys, Thanks for the information. Since this my first fishfinder, I ordered the Helix 5 SI-GPS. I founded one for $446.00. Now, It's time to fish.

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