Trolling a jig and a crank combo may seem weird to some - but there are a lot of anglers that have been doing that for years and keeping it quiet.
Trolling jigs, flies, crankbaits or stick baits with Off Shore Taddlepoles (diving weight apparatus) gets some peoples attention. We've caught crappie as deep as 60 feet down with Tadpoles
Slab - please rephrase that second question?