I ran into a buddy of mine at Garrison lake yesterday and he was catching wp,gills, and crappie and then he caught this beautiful surprise using a small white crappie magnet. I didn't have any gear with me so he let me borrow one of his setups and I wound up catching serveral crappie, wp, and 1 gill. It was a tab bit windy but managed getting my lure out 30-40 yards each cast. No real size to the crappie or gill.