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    Thanks for the info guys. Very informative!
    Do you have a link to Andrew's plan? I would like to see what he's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catscratch View Post
    Thanks for the info guys. Very informative!
    Do you have a link to Andrew's plan? I would like to see what he's done.

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    Josh and his group did exactly what we preached...he added plenty of cover for the basic food chain, fry, minnows, and small fish in shallow water...he used 'boo, Christmas trees, pallets, and brush in shallow water which helps to protect and grow the small Crappie and fish.
    We pick shallow areas two different ways....to just grow fish for the lake, and also to attract Big fish to the area to harvest....the harvest areas are close to drop-offs, points, and deeper structure that large fish will use in different patterns of the year.
    What you are trying to do is provide them with food and cover so they will stay in the area. We have areas in our lake that fish never leave, and they are just self contained 50 and 100 yard areas.
    This allows the small Crappie handy and easy food to grow and continue the cycle of replacing fish that may be harvested.
    The small dense cover will need replaced sooner, but is also easier to refresh...since it starts decaying faster, it draws zooplankton and other beginning basics of the food chain, quickly...this draws craws, and smaller fish that will use the cover, and also use it as a feeding station...this will also draw larger fish to the area!

    Knowing your lake is key, and where the big fish like to suspend or hide during different Patterns....we'll put big fish cover on top of drop-offs, on the bottom of drops and down the sides of drops...we'll put cover in channels, close to boulders, pilings, fence posts, stumps, etc. Big Crappie like Bass, will use large cover for ambush points, shade, and protection....smaller cover has to be dense enough for them to hide and get lost in or large enough to slide in behind, or belly up to. We use a lot of LARGE PVC stumps, Plastic Pallets, Big Hardwood limbs, dense Trees made with Osage Orange and other hardwood...Josh was lucky enough to get a Cemetery Headstone company to donate old headstones etc....of course he had use of a Barge to really drop a lot of stuff at once...we have to make many drops with a Armada of pontoon boats and flat decks! lol
    We have made freshwater reefs out of a concrete rubble base, then hundreds and hundreds of cement blocks, and thousands of 10 hole bricks (for craws).

    If you can provide everything a Crappie or fish needs in a area that has plenty of depth for summer/Winter, and a good supply of yearly oxygen, then you can build a sustainable harvest area, that will continue to provide fish for recreation or harvesting throughout the year!
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    When you say "large" PVC stumps and hardwoods what diameter are you suggesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortdraw View Post
    Hedge is good about any hardwood I was mainly thinking like treated types...
    Treated wood not recommended in the water as it contains toxic chemicals .
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    I have used PVC with limited results . I like Persimmon or Hardwood trees with enough space for fish to move through. Some fishery biologists suggest min 8'' spacing . I use alot of pallet or driven stake beds . Hardwood or Cedar boards are best .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catscratch View Post
    When you say "large" PVC stumps and hardwoods what diameter are you suggesting?

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    We have used hundreds of 6 and 8 inch PVC stumps in 5 gallon buckets of concrete along with over 400 milk crate stumps with plenty of wood mixed in. The milk crates are loaded with bricks on the bottom crate and hardwood in the other 3 or 4.
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    Shallow cover
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    Anytime we used Plastic, we added wood on top of it or all around it, some times we piled trees on it.....plus the plastic was always sanded with 60 grit, to give algae a good foot-hold.
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    Great pics! That really helps a lot in visualizing what I want to build.

    So The larger stuff goes in deeper water that is close to contour's (in hopes of maintaining larger fish) and the dense cedar type stuff is more for attracting smaller baitfish and is put in shallower water...

    I noticed the chicken wire on some of the stuff. Has that proven effective?

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    I just use chicken wire to hold things where I want, while the concrete dries!
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