Thread: condos outlawed in mississippi

227...We'll of course I'm gonna tell you I'm not doing it ANYMORE

Looks like your other posts about "I'll be danged if they're gonna stop me from building tops" and "that's why God made night" have been removed, Rick.

That's all I needed to hear, Rick. Another guide caving in to the money and making illegal practices a part of his operation. Our Department takes a special interest in that kind of thing. Something about the commercialized taking game and breaking the law that gets you in more trouble. But, hey, you do what you want to do.

Hey FW227,

Thanks for the info........ I'll check out the pamplet. Dove Hunting is about the only hunting I can still enjoy.

I agree on the other stuff, If folks would just think before doing some of this dumb stuff it would be a better place for everybody.

One question............ Can you use concrete to anchor a properly (legal) constructed fishing structure?

I was looking at those Bill Dance pork-u-pine deals and thinking I could try and make some out of treated wood, I would like to know what I could weight them down with.

john

P.S. Anybody living near thr Rez spillway get your reels and rooster tails out, the Hybrids are just a blast to catch. But remember it has to be 15" or greater in order to keep it, and then it's only 3. But they sure are fun to catch!

Bowdenja, the dove hunting pamphlet is at www.mdwfp.com under wildlife and then click doves.

There has got to be some exception to the rule about some non-biodegradeable materials. I mean, what are we gonna use for trotline weights?

I'll see if I can't get to the bottom of this. And honestly, I don't see anything wrong with pvc crappie condos, but if it's the law it's the law.

Thanks!

And I agree on the law, just wish they would put some kind of restriction on the pipe diameter, i.e. nothing bigger than 3", or something like that.

That would still allow store bought or hand-made structures to be put out legally and keep them dang barrels from ending up in the water. I know the entent of the law was to stop putting plastic chemical barrels out for the flatheads, and I think that is a FANTASTIC idea

Clean water = edible fish!.

But as usual our illustrious law-makers did not quite think it out before enacting a new law. Guess if you just keep messing things up you will still have a job to do fixing past mistakes!

20 years of state service has caused me to be a little bit jaded of their actions. Oh and congratulations on your mighty fine raise that they allowed us to get for the first time in 5 years! At least something is better then nothing.

Yeah on the trotlines........... what are we going to do with all these window weights we've been saving

Thanks again for trying to keep us straight!

john

Originally Posted by FW227

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There has got to be some exception to the rule about some non-biodegradeable materials. I mean, what are we gonna use for trotline weights?

I'll see if I can't get to the bottom of this. And honestly, I don't see anything wrong with pvc crappie condos, but if it's the law it's the law.

From the North Carolina Wildlife Resource Commission's website.

Fish In A Barrel: Falls and Jordan Lakes

"After examining the recurring problem of natural structures deteriorating and needing replacement, the Fish Division in 1999 began building artificial fish attractors for placement in Falls Lake and Jordan Lake near Raleigh. These structures are made of four plastic, 55-gallon barrels cut in half vertically, PVC pipe and concrete. Designed to be assembled on the bow of a pontoon boat, these artificial structures resemble two-tiered networks of PVC adorned with barrels.

Despite their odd appearance, they appear to attract fish, sometimes only moments after being lowered to the bottom. Like natural fish attractors, these artificial attractors provide shade and cover for fish, along with a surface for periphyton to grow and feed into the aquatic food web.

The artificial fish attractors offer additional advantages over natural fish attractors. They are more angler friendly because the rotating barrels minimize the likelihood of snags. In addition, the barrels provide more shade than tree limbs. Finally, these artificial fish attractors are permanent, never deteriorating and needing replacement. Because they are submerged off shore, the artificial fish attractors pose no dangers to boaters and skiers.

A total of 29 fish artificial fish attractors will be placed in Falls Lake and 19 in Jordan Lake. Anglers can locate any of them by using commercially available fishing maps sold in sporting goods stores. On the lake, each attractor has a large, cylindrical, orange-and-white fish attractor buoy bobbing on the surface directly above the sunken structure."

If anybody is interested, you can go to the NCWRC'S website,
http://216.27.49.98/fs_index_03_fishing.htm
Click on fishing, then news and scroll down til you find "Fish Attractors". They have a 3 part article with a detailed diagram and photos for anyone who is interested in making their own condos out of PVC/plastic barrels

I have asked a couple of our biologists about this. The original intent of the regulation prohibiting anything but wood was to prevent hazardous materials (such as the plastic barrels that had previously held insecticide) and hazards to navigation (washing machines, culverts, bathtubs, etc.) from littering our public waters. I think the original regulation was only in reference to catfish nest box structures.

The pvc crappie condos and similar structures were not really considered when this regulation was changed. But, with everybody putting out structure these days, you can see how thousands of 5-gallon buckets filled with concrete and a Christmas tree sticking out the top would eventually cause problems. The tree rots and the bucket of concrete is left there, as is the pvc crappie condo, and can prove to be dangers to humans (skiers, tubers, etc.) and hazards to navigation.

I think some changes are on the way to this new regulation, but I am not certain what they will be. There is a need for artificial structure, but you've got to consider other things before you go to putting out stuff all over a public lake that will remain there for a very long time.

Maybe some of the biologists will make a comment on the matter before long.

227....Caving into the money...Yea I take people on guided trips for all the money I make doing it...LOL...I don't do anything illegal...I've just got conflicting info and one of the guys that works for the PRVWD (you do know what that is don't you 227?) just said do it at night. The MDWFP told me that they have no policy and dealing with building cover on RB Rez becasue it's OWNED by the PRVWD. Ask Dennis Rickie or David Adcock...

That is just like the government. Where they should take and think hard before doing something. They go off half loaded. And As below. Only think on one part of it.

AS for the 5 gallon buckets. When there left, You had a stump. Is that bad? All that is needed here for structure is common sense. And all problems are gone.
But that is where it stops. Theres way to many people out there that does not even know what common sense is anymore. But if the condos are put in 15ft of water. And out in the lake. I just don't see how a skier would hit that. WE can all wish for a lot of gravel for the way runners..

So sounds like MS needs to take out of stumps ( 5 gallon buckets serve the same as stumps) and trees and tree tops.
I do agree on the barrels that has poison still sticking to them. but to me It should have been fine the ones doing that. Not make up a new law.

Have a great day and be safe out on the water. Theres so much stuff out there to get hurt on.

Pete

Originally Posted by FW227

I have asked a couple of our biologists about this. The original intent of the regulation prohibiting anything but wood was to prevent hazardous materials (such as the plastic barrels that had previously held insecticide) and hazards to navigation (washing machines, culverts, bathtubs, etc.) from littering our public waters. I think the original regulation was only in reference to catfish nest box structures.

The pvc crappie condos and similar structures were not really considered when this regulation was changed. But, with everybody putting out structure these days, you can see how thousands of 5-gallon buckets filled with concrete and a Christmas tree sticking out the top would eventually cause problems. The tree rots and the bucket of concrete is left there, as is the pvc crappie condo, and can prove to be dangers to humans (skiers, tubers, etc.) and hazards to navigation.

I think some changes are on the way to this new regulation, but I am not certain what they will be. There is a need for artificial structure, but you've got to consider other things before you go to putting out stuff all over a public lake that will remain there for a very long time.

Maybe some of the biologists will make a comment on the matter before long.