Any update on those VMC hooks? I haven't bought anything but Trokar in so long I forgot other companies even make hooks. I lucked out and found a sale on Trokar flipping, and the wide gap plastics hooks. Think I got 5 packs of each hooks for about $3 a pack, so that's what $30 for 50 hooks? While I have used other brands in the past, I think the Trokar brans are the sharpest on the market.