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    > HOW LONG DOES THE USA HAVE?
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    > This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing
    > about it, you can see it coming.
    > I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to
    > see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.
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    > How Long Do We Have?
    > About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution
    > in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University
    > of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
    > 2,000 years earlier:
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    > 'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
    > permanent form of government.'
    >
    > 'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover
    > they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'
    >
    > 'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who
    > promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that
    > every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is
    > always followed by a dictatorship.'
    >
    > 'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning
    > of history, has been about 200 years'
    >
    > 'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the
    > following sequence:
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    > 1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
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    > 2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
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    > 3. From courage to liberty;
    >
    > 4. From liberty to abundance;
    >
    > 5. From abundance to complacency;
    >
    > 6. From complacency to apathy;
    >
    > 7. From apathy to dependence;
    >
    > 8. From dependence back into bondage'
    >
    > Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul,
    > Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000
    > Presidential election:
    >
    > Number of States won by:
    > Gore: 19
    > Bush: 29
    >
    > Square miles of land won by:
    > Gore: 580,000
    > Bush: 2,427,000
    >
    > Population of counties won by:
    > Gore: 127 million
    > Bush: 143 million
    >
    > Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    > Gore: 13.2
    > Bush: 2.1
    >
    > Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was
    > mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
    >
    > Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
    > government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
    > welfare...' Olson believes the United State s is now somewhere between the
    > 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
    > democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already
    > having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.
    >
    > If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
    > invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA
    > in fewer than five years.
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    Our system is and always will be the best system and the best country around. That is why so many have fought for it. This is also the reason we try to make others confrom to our standard of government.
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    you mean impose our will on others?

    thats crap we just make others conform that we dont like.
    britain is a monarchy and we havent made them try to change in 200 years. or saudi arabia since we get our oil there.. the only people we try to make conform are our enemies and usually use this as an excuse to go to war..i.e korean, vietnam and 2nd iraq war

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    Quote Originally Posted by john h
    you mean impose our will on others?

    thats crap we just make others conform that we dont like.
    britain is a monarchy and we havent made them try to change in 200 years. or saudi arabia since we get our oil there.. the only people we try to make conform are our enemies and usually use this as an excuse to go to war..i.e korean, vietnam and 2nd iraq war

    Yep, I agree 100% with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampHunter
    Yep, I agree 100% with that.
    I disagree. We (America) wanted their natural resources. Conforming is just a political issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane Pole
    I disagree. We (America) wanted their natural resources. Conforming is just a political issue.
    Amen Its all about the Politics when we blow them up, tear them down ,then spend billions to rebuild it better than what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane Pole
    I disagree. We (America) wanted their natural resources. Conforming is just a political issue.
    I agree with that 100% too. It's at least a dual purpose motive for us (America).... could even be more to the reasons too.
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    yep iraq we invaded for oil under the guise of "weapons of mass destruction"
    yet at same time nort korea threatens us with nuclear weapons, there dictatot even had said if we attack they will use nukes, yet we dontinvade cause they haze zero natural resources. and both countries arent a democracy....go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by john h
    yep iraq we invaded for oil under the guise of "weapons of mass destruction"
    Not this again. We get our oil the same as before the war: what we don't produce, we buy on the open market. And there is absolutely no question that Saddam had WMD. The only question is what happened to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by john h
    yet at same time nort korea threatens us with nuclear weapons, there dictatot even had said if we attack they will use nukes, yet we dontinvade cause they haze zero natural resources. and both countries arent a democracy....go figure
    Just for the record, the USSR threatened us with nuclear weapons for fifty years, and we didn't invade.

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    If we invaded for the oil why are the prices still so high and going up?
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