Todd Huckabee's Quantum rods were the best rods I've ever had. I absolutely love my 8'ers. You might still be able to find one at Cabelas. I heard about the Sam Heaton super sensitive rods and tried one at BPS the other day. I liked the feel of the 9'er. It's not a buggy whip rod, I won't buy one if it is. I think it's made by BnM,