Sorry both pics posted twice. This pic thing and me aint seein eye to eye. Went upper grand today started out slow. Did end up finding a shallow bite and wow wee got em in short fashion with some good uns to boot. Seemed to be alittle more scattered but boy we all like that thump and man they will take the rod out of you hand. I had to use minners but yall my not have to I just couldnt get em to eat a jig. Maybe next time