Dang Just Were Can We Find The Truth!!!!!

[LBM]

Just got this in an email. Do you suppose I could verify this at Snopes? :rolleyes: Looks like the old "believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see" is really true.

The truth about Snopes.com

For the past few years snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell-all final word' on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com

Only recently did Wikipedia (which has it's own credibility problems with some, too) get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a California husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers.

It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website in 1995 - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity by people believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years many started asking questions ... who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticism's - is a result of Snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but giving their pick of the answers they found on those issues. Although they claim to research their topics heavily and provide references when possible, not all of their sources (especially personal interviews, phone calls, or e-mails) are fully verifiable.
A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the Internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com . In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort 'ever' took place. I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!

Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are very Democrat (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative.. There has been much criticism lately over the Internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?

So, I say this now to everyone who goes to snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says with a grain of salt. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself, and then do your own investigating to look for more references. Plus, you can always Bing or Google (another leftist outfit!) a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.

Snopes.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I have found this to be true also!

Many videos of Obama I tried to verify on Snopes and they said they were False.... Then they gave their Liberal slant....!!! I have suspected some problems with snopes for some time now, but I have only caught them in half-truths..

If there is any subjectivity they do an immediate full left rudder.
Truth or Fiction TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet a better source for
verification, in my opinion.

I have recently discovered that Snopes.com is owned by a flaming liberal and this man is in the tank for Obama.

There are many things they have listed on their site as a hoax and yet you can go to Youtube yourself and find the video of Obama actually saying these things.

So you see, you cannot or should not trust Snopes.com.... if you want to be SURE something is the truth! I don't always even trust them to tell me if email chains are hoaxes anymore. What a skeptic I've become!

A few conservative speakers on Myspace told me about snopes.com . I took it upon myself to do a little research to find out if it was true. Well, I found out for myself that it is true. Anyway just FYI, don't just go to Snopes.com anymore for fact checking ... check TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet and make your friends aware of the slant at Snopes as well.


Most people still think Snopes.com is neutral and they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is aware that sometimes they are a hoax themselves.
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[drifter106]

Thanks for posting...definitely well worth the read.


For some this don't mean poo...for others, it kinda makes you think (as if we aren't already doing it) what direction this country is heading.

[fishingpox]

Where I come from a half truth is a lie...

Just got this in an email. Do you suppose I could verify this at Snopes? :rolleyes: Looks like the old "believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see" is really true.

The truth about Snopes.com

For the past few years snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell-all final word' on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com

Only recently did Wikipedia (which has it's own credibility problems with some, too) get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a California husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers.

It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website in 1995 - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity by people believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years many started asking questions ... who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticism's - is a result of Snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but giving their pick of the answers they found on those issues. Although they claim to research their topics heavily and provide references when possible, not all of their sources (especially personal interviews, phone calls, or e-mails) are fully verifiable.
A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the Internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com . In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort 'ever' took place. I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!

Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are very Democrat (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative.. There has been much criticism lately over the Internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?

So, I say this now to everyone who goes to snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says with a grain of salt. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself, and then do your own investigating to look for more references. Plus, you can always Bing or Google (another leftist outfit!) a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.

Snopes.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have found this to be true also!

Many videos of Obama I tried to verify on Snopes and they said they were False.... Then they gave their Liberal slant....!!! I have suspected some problems with snopes for some time now, but I have only caught them in half-truths..

If there is any subjectivity they do an immediate full left rudder.
Truth or Fiction TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet a better source for
verification, in my opinion.

I have recently discovered that Snopes.com is owned by a flaming liberal and this man is in the tank for Obama.

There are many things they have listed on their site as a hoax and yet you can go to Youtube yourself and find the video of Obama actually saying these things.

So you see, you cannot or should not trust Snopes.com.... if you want to be SURE something is the truth! I don't always even trust them to tell me if email chains are hoaxes anymore. What a skeptic I've become!

A few conservative speakers on Myspace told me about snopes.com . I took it upon myself to do a little research to find out if it was true. Well, I found out for myself that it is true. Anyway just FYI, don't just go to Snopes.com anymore for fact checking ... check TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet and make your friends aware of the slant at Snopes as well.


Most people still think Snopes.com is neutral and they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is aware that sometimes they are a hoax themselves.
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[Eager Beaver]

Where I come from a half truth is a lie...

Where I come from a quarter truth is a lie... hehe EB

[deathb4disco]

Most people still think Snopes.com is neutral and they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is aware that sometimes they are a hoax themselves.
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Fortunately, we have MSNBC and the NY Times to tell us the truth.

[Eager Beaver]

Or Fox News - the holy grail of truth, justice, and the american way. Ta Da hehe EB

[Eager Beaver]

Speaking of which, I wonder if Rush Limburger has packed yet, since he said if Health Care Reform passed, he would leave the country. Wonder if it passed on its own merits or that they just wanted Rush gone. Hummm Makes you wonder doesn't it. hehe EB

[deathb4disco]

Or Fox News - the holy grail of truth, justice, and the american way. Ta Da hehe EB

The American people certainly like Fox, as evidenced by this:


CABLE NEWS RACE
THURS., APRIL 1, 2010

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,981,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,256,000
FOXNEWS PALIN 2,073,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,014,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,877,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,658,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 989,000
MSNBC MADDOW 950,000
CNN KING 839,000
CNN COOPER 820,000
CNNHN BEHAR 641,000

[deathb4disco]

he said if Health Care Reform passed, he would leave the country.

That's not what Rush said. That's what the mainstream media says he said.

[beagle man]

bunch of gobbley gook to me