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    A jighead update that pertains to casting distance.
    I had been experimenting with streamer hooks with tungsten bead heads epoxied to the hooks .
    This morning, I switched back to 1/64 Trout Magnet jig heads . And I gained from 10-15’ with every rod I tried this morning.
    I’ll still use the streamer hook jigs when I want a jig with a smaller hook as when using a Bobby Garland Itty Bit Swim’r .
    “ The bigger the Bend , the Wider the Grin ! “

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    Quote Originally Posted by gillchaser999 View Post
    A jighead update that pertains to casting distance.
    I had been experimenting with streamer hooks with tungsten bead heads epoxied to the hooks .
    This morning, I switched back to 1/64 Trout Magnet jig heads . And I gained from 10-15’ with every rod I tried this morning.
    I’ll still use the streamer hook jigs when I want a jig with a smaller hook as when using a Bobby Garland Itty Bit Swim’r .
    For apples to apples we need to know the weight of your tungsten beaded hooks. Tungsten beads come in many different sizes and weights.

    I use both slotted and cyclops tungsten beads, weights can vary slightly between brands due to tungsten content. A reloading scale is used to weigh my tungsten streamers and I use mostly 4.6mm and 5.5mm tungsten beads for streamers. Beaded nymphs are tied much smaller down to 2.8mm slotted tungsten beads.

    This might help, weights will vary slightly among brands:

    5.5mm tungsten bead slotted = 21 grains
    4.6mm tungsten bead slotted = 11 grains
    4.0mm tungsten bead slotted = 7.4 grains

    1/16oz = 27.3 grains
    1/32oz = 13.7 grains
    1/64oz = 6.8 grains

    1 gram = 15.4 grains.

    For visual this little #10 hook sculpin jig tied with a 4.6mm slotted tungsten bead and .030 lead wrap weighs 20 grains dry. Casts easily with light lined spin gear.





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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnFisher View Post
    For apples to apples we need to know the weight of your tungsten beaded hooks. Tungsten beads come in many different sizes and weights.

    I use both slotted and cyclops tungsten beads, weights can vary slightly between brands due to tungsten content. A reloading scale is used to weigh my tungsten streamers and I use mostly 4.6mm and 5.5mm tungsten beads for streamers. Beaded nymphs are tied much smaller down to 2.8mm slotted tungsten beads.

    This might help, weights will vary slightly among brands:

    5.5mm tungsten bead slotted = 21 grains
    4.6mm tungsten bead slotted = 11 grains
    4.0mm tungsten bead slotted = 7.4 grains

    1/16oz = 27.3 grains
    1/32oz = 13.7 grains
    1/64oz = 6.8 grains

    1 gram = 15.4 grains.

    For visual this little #10 hook sculpin jig tied with a 4.6mm slotted tungsten bead and .030 lead wrap weighs 20 grains dry. Casts easily with light lined spin gear.





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    Thanks for the info .
    I’ve been gradually going up in diameter of Tungsten beads . The ones I received today are cyclops 4.6mm .
    “ The bigger the Bend , the Wider the Grin ! “
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    For the OP, you might consider Momoi's Oshikage PE braided line designed for distance. I would pair it with a JDM light game rod 6.9ft to 7.1ft, Fuji Titanium Torzite micro guides and rated for light lures.


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    I went on this same journey, searching for the ultimate conventional tackle rod that could cast ultra light weight lures accurately and for distance and ultimately I ended up biting the bullet and getting a fly rod. Conventional tackle just isn't designed for this usage and fly rods are. My foray into fly fishing has been super refreshing and rewarding. Even if you end up with a conventional setup that accomplish what you want I would still get a cheap fly rod to try out. You never know, you may love it.
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    To add to my previous comments.
    One rod isn’t going to do it . At least for me it’s not .
    Like today . I took my 6’3” Abu Garcia Mass Beat light Four piece travel rod with a compact 2000s reel for throwing plastics .
    When I wanted to cast my micro spinners , out came my 5’6” SC Avid with a 500 size Shimano Soare XR reel . 2# Floroclear on both .
    “ The bigger the Bend , the Wider the Grin ! “

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstout View Post
    I went on this same journey, searching for the ultimate conventional tackle rod that could cast ultra light weight lures accurately and for distance and ultimately I ended up biting the bullet and getting a fly rod. Conventional tackle just isn't designed for this usage and fly rods are. My foray into fly fishing has been super refreshing and rewarding. Even if you end up with a conventional setup that accomplish what you want I would still get a cheap fly rod to try out. You never know, you may love it.
    For the really light stuff a fly rod would would be better. With spin gear I'm comfortable throwing most jig streamers down to about 1/40oz and prefer no lighter than 1/32oz. I also fish light egg patterns and nymphs but use split shot crimped to the tag end of my leader knot.

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    Just some input. Where I fish there’s so much stuff above and behind and it seems everywhere to grab a fly line. I have two fly rods that gather dust. Not that I don’t like em, I built one of em. My area and fishing is under branches and Spanish moss and so on. I agree that below my favorite weight of 1/43 I have a hard time casting. If you really have to heave the cast, accuracy suffers. Hence, I bow the rod and shoot a lot. It takes practice but once you’re comfortable with it your boat mates will have to know how you’re doing that. I’ve shown it to a few folks and all have adopted it to some extent.

    And just fyi, the grain measurements I used in reloading are pretty spot on for accuracy. There’s 7000 grains in a pound and about 435 in an ounce if memory serves. The jig I use most comes from a do it pro mold for 1/32 no collar mbut weighs 1/43 with a #8 hook.I just know it works well for me. Now add wind and current and you have to decide for yourself.
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    You said it Tim , it’s finding what works for you .
    Everybody has their favorite rods , reels , lures , and lines . It’s what fits your style of fishing or what works that’s important.
    “ The bigger the Bend , the Wider the Grin ! “

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