Thread: JDM lines relating to panfish

Here is an example of what Randy is talking about, I encountered and struggled with this but have settled on everything equal to and less than 4lb can be used in my arsenal of rods relatively safely with proper drag settings.
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Both high quality PE at .2, but different pound test rated?
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A little more consistent in this brand of PE.
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Seemingly close but not. Compare to PE numbers not even close..... .6 Ester lighter than .4 PE?
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Then compare nylon to Ester... .5 is two different pound test?
I cannot find the Orange Stuff, but I am sure it fits right in to these all over the place ratings.

Confusing yes, so the 4lb rule stands in my stable, for UL I am for the most part satisfied and happy with my direct connection to said freshwater fishes. No salty guys in my neck of the woods, but the bullies still take a lip ring when they can, part of the fun and I don’t strive to be the hero. As always your mileage may vary.


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I've been using SOS 2lb test and I like it. If it gets kinky, I simply change out the line and spool some fresh line on. It's priced right and it casts pretty well.

I should've phrased my question better. I understand that the number for PE refers to its diameter, not lbs test. There is a very broad range of breaking strength among PE lines with the same number. In fact, PE's number corresponds to a dtex value, a Japanese standard for thickness that refers to specific gravity of the line (that translates into the amount of fiber and, therefore, thickness. For example, 0.3 PE should be 70 dtex and so on and so forth. Now, there is still quite a bit of variability in thickness among various PE lines with the same number, because the material of the fiber and the weaving process also affect the density. I just thought that a high end 0.3 PE would be an overkill...

The more research I do, the more I am convinced that the PE rating on the rods is related to the size of the guides and the thickness of the line it allows for. Case in point: I have two rods with nearly same power, length, etc. However, one look at the first guide and you know exactly why one is rated to 0.4 PE and another to 0.8 PE...

Originally Posted by s_v

I should've phrased my question better. I understand that the number for PE refers to its diameter, not lbs test. There is a very broad range of breaking strength among PE lines with the same number. In fact, PE's number corresponds to a dtex value, a Japanese standard for thickness that refers to specific gravity of the line (that translates into the amount of fiber and, therefore, thickness. For example, 0.3 PE should be 70 dtex and so on and so forth. Now, there is still quite a bit of variability in thickness among various PE lines with the same number, because the material of the fiber and the weaving process also affect the density. I just thought that a high end 0.3 PE would be an overkill...

The more research I do, the more I am convinced that the PE rating on the rods is related to the size of the guides and the thickness of the line it allows for. Case in point: I have two rods with nearly same power, length, etc. However, one look at the first guide and you know exactly why one is rated to 0.4 PE and another to 0.8 PE...

Exactly....I have several rods with 2mm guides.

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Originally Posted by s_v

I should've phrased my question better. I understand that the number for PE refers to its diameter, not lbs test. There is a very broad range of breaking strength among PE lines with the same number. In fact, PE's number corresponds to a dtex value, a Japanese standard for thickness that refers to specific gravity of the line (that translates into the amount of fiber and, therefore, thickness. For example, 0.3 PE should be 70 dtex and so on and so forth. Now, there is still quite a bit of variability in thickness among various PE lines with the same number, because the material of the fiber and the weaving process also affect the density. I just thought that a high end 0.3 PE would be an overkill...

The more research I do, the more I am convinced that the PE rating on the rods is related to the size of the guides and the thickness of the line it allows for. Case in point: I have two rods with nearly same power, length, etc. However, one look at the first guide and you know exactly why one is rated to 0.4 PE and another to 0.8 PE...

So where does the Leland TSS rod fall into the picture? It's bottom guide is tiny, they say it reduces line slap but the rest of the guides seem like most other guides. This rod is designed for their SOS nylon trout line I believe?

My Corto Nuevo Prototype has tiny guides but I plan to use the smaller diameter 3lb Varivas Advanced Trout line with this rod. Will this line work with my Corto or was this rod specifically designed for PE? All my other JDM rods have both nylon and PE ratings.


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Originally Posted by MtnFisher

So where does the Leland TSS rod fall into the picture? It's bottom guide is tiny, they say it reduces line slap but the rest of the guides seem like most other guides. This rod is designed for their SOS nylon trout line I believe?

My Corto Nuevo Prototype has tiny guides but I plan to use the smaller diameter 3lb Varivas Advanced Trout line with this rod. Will this line work with my Corto or was this rod specifically designed for PE? All my other JDM rods have both nylon and PE ratings.


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Don’t know which model you have but seems the 8 foot ML is designed for PE line use.....the others have a max line rating.

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

Don’t know which model you have but seems the 8 foot ML is designed for PE line use.....the others have a max line rating.

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This is the only JDM rod I have with the tiny guides so I guess I will report back how it works with the Varivas 3lb. Hope it casts the tiny tungsten bead jigs well.

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I think "Line" rating on your Corto refers to monofilament line, nylon, fluorocarbon, or polyester. I cannot comment the TSS rod.