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    Quote Originally Posted by redearhoosier View Post
    Are there any Evergreen ultralight models more reasonably priced? It's simply not justifiable in my case to spend $500 on one single fishing pole....Do they have anything that's worthy at the $300 price point??

    $300 is still a tremendous amount of money to spend on a bluegill/crappie pole...
    Not that I’m aware of. The Ever Green name is not synonymous with cheap rods. They are considered by many to be the best. Quite a few Ever Green bass rods....to include some UL bass rods, are in the 600-700 dollar range. To me those of us who do this are truly tackle enthusiast. Believe me I struggle with my thoughts when buying one of these rods......any of them. I have slowed way down from how I used to be. Now I am trying to focus only on the higher end......but when doing that I will only be purchasing maybe one a year or so. It is same with the reels. I probably will not buy any more reels until Daiwa comes out with the new Exist....and I will only be buying one of those....I just want to have one so I can see just how good it is. Of course my thoughts are on high end but have been wrestling on whether to purchase a 5’ 9” Fine Tail Banshee XUL. That would give me a trio of Banshee rods. The 2 Banshee that I have are truly excellent bluegill rods at what I think is a great price for what you get. So my thoughts are why not round out my lineup with a rod that I know is superb. It is tough decision as that money could go towards an Ever Green or Super Bellezza. Decisions decisions....LOL.

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    I certainly need to invest in a Banshee rod, Randy...Thank you for your response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphahawk View Post
    So my thoughts are why not round out my lineup with a rod that I know is superb.
    I feel the same way. I've been eyeing Yamaga Blanks Ballistick TZ Nano for my medium power needs, but now choosing between that and Shimano Exsence Genos or Infinity – the relative performance of my Soare SS has been so impressive that I want to see what Shimano has to offer when you step up the price category a few notches.

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    Alphahawk,

    You mentioned Torayca T1100G a few times before. A high end line of Shimano rods I am about to try has blanks made of this material and I am trying to understand the benefits. It appears to me that this particular fiber actually makes rods a bit slower that the higher tonnage graphites (T1100G is 33 ton, and a few high end rods are made of 50-55 ton graphite), but that it also makes them virtually unbreakable (within limits, of course). This T1100G stuff comes at a very premium price. Is it worth it? Just looking for opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_v View Post
    Alphahawk,

    You mentioned Torayca T1100G a few times before. A high end line of Shimano rods I am about to try has blanks made of this material and I am trying to understand the benefits. It appears to me that this particular fiber actually makes rods a bit slower that the higher tonnage graphites (T1100G is 33 ton, and a few high end rods are made of 50-55 ton graphite), but that it also makes them virtually unbreakable (within limits, of course). This T1100G stuff comes at a very premium price. Is it worth it? Just looking for opinions.

    IMHO it is very much worth the premium. As you stated you can make the rod softer......yet you do not lose any sensitivity. The Finezza Prototype is as sensitive a rod as I have...yet it can take a huge bend when you get on a big fish with these UL rods. Check out the video at the 3:10 mark. I will be purchasing more of these high tech rods.


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    If you read middle column it mentions this Toray company carbon material that uses the Nano Alloy technology. This material is used in the ABU Eradicator Finesse I picked up on sale at Digitaka a while back. It says it uses the 55t, which I guess is good? I see this same Toray material listed on the Olympic Graphite Leader website rod descriptions also, so I am assuming it is good blank materials if they use it also. I have both brands, but not the same blank used from what I can tell on the 18 Corto by OG leader. The higher end OG have the Toray Graphite listed, like the Finezza that Randy has. My thoughts on the ABU that I do have with this Toray blank, softer, sensitive, and smoother to fish with than any other rod I have. Loads a little better than the Corto with 1g jig and plastic and the bending curve is deeper into the blank and very parabolic.
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    Great discussion. I agree that soft and sensitive is almost oxymoron in rods. With that said, can you comment on recovery of T1100G blanks?

    Nanoalloy by Toray has been used in quite a few rods at this point, but from what I gather T1100G is a different beast – it a blend of different graphites that also uses Nanoalloy tech. So far I have only seen it in the highest end rods.

    About to pull a trigger on a T1100G seabass rod that is reportedly built like an ajing rod – is it even possible to have a robust, ounce-rated rod that fast and yet with sensitive tip? The Mighty Hunstman from Ever Green was certainly a contender (and cheaper!), but I am afraid I won't be able to raise anything big up to the rocks...

    P.S. Nice bent on that Finezza!

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    I gave the Evergreen Superior Scout Master a good workout yesterday. Even though this rod is listed as a light action, while fighting a fish, it felt more like an UL to me. However it is very steely. Sensitivity is incredible. Jacob and I were fishing our local creek and I could feel when my jig would go through different velocities. Crazy sensitive! 8-9 in green sunfish put up a pretty good fight. I also caught a 16-in spotted bass that gave the Scout Master a run for the money. These stream fish give an incredible fight. After a five minute battle (seemed like 30 min). I landed the fish. But while trying to take a picture, I dropped my phone in the creek. Luckily the rice in a bag in the sun trick worked and phone is ok. I think this rod will be excellent for minnow imitation lures. I tried to fish lighter Ned rigs on the bottom but kept getting snagged up and the 4-lb fluorocarbon leader would give before retrieving the lure. Bottom line is this rod is something special. Oh yeah, the 20 Luvias 2000S is pretty sweet too! Name:  IMG_0617.jpg
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    Glad to hear the rice bag trick worked. Nice report on the rod and great photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D10 View Post
    I gave the Evergreen Superior Scout Master a good workout yesterday. Even though this rod is listed as a light action, while fighting a fish, it felt more like an UL to me. However it is very steely. Sensitivity is incredible. Jacob and I were fishing our local creek and I could feel when my jig would go through different velocities. Crazy sensitive! 8-9 in green sunfish put up a pretty good fight. I also caught a 16-in spotted bass that gave the Scout Master a run for the money. These stream fish give an incredible fight. After a five minute battle (seemed like 30 min). I landed the fish. But while trying to take a picture, I dropped my phone in the creek. Luckily the rice in a bag in the sun trick worked and phone is ok. I think this rod will be excellent for minnow imitation lures. I tried to fish lighter Ned rigs on the bottom but kept getting snagged up and the 4-lb fluorocarbon leader would give before retrieving the lure. Bottom line is this rod is something special. Oh yeah, the 20 Luvias 2000S is pretty sweet too! Name:  IMG_0617.jpg
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    Good observations Matt. I need to get off the fence and get me an Ever Green.

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